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The Great RR Debate

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Re Tracy Emin: I liked 'Everyone That I Have Ever Slept With' 1963-1995. Most of all though, I enjoyed Mad Tracy from Margate' s drunken performance on Channel 4s live television debate just after the 1997 Turner Prize awards. It was up there with Olly Reed's performance :w00t:
 
chieftiff said:
I was avoiding that, mostly because I like Tracy Emin! I was more concerned that we would end up with a debate about "My Bed" But I see your point it could be tweaked or sod it we could expose RR to some of her other work, I guarantee some people would like at least some of it!

I suppose you could widen it to "Young Controversial Artists" such as Damien Hirst etc.

For the record, I do find her thought provoking - people dislike her, but probably because she came up with ideas and themes before they did! Not many people could have come up with the Tent - "Everyone I have ever slept with". Mind you, I know a few women who would've needed a marquee! :eek:mfg:
 
chieftiff said:
HarryBosch said:
Chief, With the Turner Prize almost upon us I quite like Tattoo Dog's 'Tracy Emin - talented artist or pretentious twaddle?'. You could widen his question by substituting 'Turner Prize' or 'Modern Art' for Tracy Emin. I imagine it could produce a lively debate between a small minority and the apoplectic!
:geek:

I was avoiding that, mostly because I like Tracy Emin! I was more concerned that we would end up with a debate about "My Bed" But I see your point it could be tweaked or sod it we could expose RR to some of her other work, I guarantee some people would like at least some of it!


oh yes Chiefy - please lets do have a talk about your bed!!!!!!!! :thumright:
 
Karma said:
* Is the use of political correctness in discussion meaningful or just intellectual laziness?

That is another way of putting it. My original title for the debate was:
Political Correctness: Fact or an invention of the upper class ruling elite of this country and perpetuated with the connivance of their right wing media lackeys. But I'll save that for the debate, if we have it.

Either way it would make for an interesting discussion and one worth having considering the way the phrase is bandied about on here.
 

uncleTom

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sara21 said:
18-30= big, 30+= small.

I don't want breasts that I might have to tuck in my trousers one day...eww
Certainly committing suicide by shooting yourself under your left breast would be perilous for your port patella.
 
1. Cats or men - which are more useful in an emotional crisis?
2. Why do men have nipples?
3. Why do booties talk such bollocks most of the time?
4. Is there a god? Discuss.
 
rosinacarley said:
1. Cats or men - which are more useful in an emotional crisis?
2. Why do men have nipples?
3. Why do booties talk such bollocks most of the time?
4. Is there a god? Discuss.

Own up! Who's recently been talking to Rosie? :happy8:
 
rosinacarley said:
1. Cats or men - which are more useful in an emotional crisis?
2. Why do men have nipples?
3. Why do booties talk such bollocks most of the time?
4. Is there a god? Discuss.

1. Cats
2. Nipples: I could explain it, but not in less than a paragraph
3. Booties talk rubbish? Are you under the influence of a passing train driver by any chance? ;)
4. You're not on about George Clooney again? :biggrin:
 

sgtpepperband

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Book Reviewer
Why do ginger people stink of piss? 8O :wink:

Okay, something more serious...

1. Why is there 'something' rather than 'nothing at all'?
2. If two persons who have all the same experiences disagree about some matter of fact, has at least one of them violated some rule of good reasoning?
3. If two distinct objects have something in common then in what ways are they the same and different?
4. Since my acts are caused by my choices and my choices caused by my beliefs and desires and my beliefs and desires are not in my direct control, how can it be that my acts are free?
5. Is what is good, good because the gods commanded it or did the gods command it because it was good? (Or, to that end: Are the things that are valuable, valuable because we value them or do we value them because they are valuable?)
6. Must there be some basic element of reality from which everything else is composed?
7. Does time have a beginning?
8. If I think of a being greater than which none can be conceived must this being exist?
9. Since minds have properties natural objects lack, how can minds be a part of nature?
10. Does God Exist?
11. Love or money which is better?
12. Why are fools and fanatics always so certain of themselves, but wiser people are full of doubts?
13. Why do all good things come to an end?
14. What is the fundamental flaw in human nature? Pride - or greed?
15. Can you prove to me that you exist?
16. How do you gain wisdom and knowledge?
17. If you found out the meaning of life, would you share it for free, keep it to yourself, or charge fees for enlightenment?
18. Can say your favourite and very meaningful philosophical statement?
19. What does death feel like?
20. Is it wrong to love yourself?
21. Would you kill one person to save a thousand?
22. In the chessboard of life, what chess piece are you?
23. Is the human race essentially good?
24. Are you important? Do you really matter?
25. At the end of your life would you be more likely to regret something you did or regret something you didn't do?
 

uncleTom

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Harry_off_the_Hermes said:
One or two that might stimulate some lively debate:

1. Political Correctness: Fact or Fiction?

2. The conflicting interests of Church and State: Is it time for a legal separation in the United Kingdom?

3. Renewable Energy: The way ahead for the United Kingdom.

4. Identity Cards: “If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fearâ€. Discuss.

5. The European Union: Should the UK be in or out?

6. The Turner Prize: One of the most important and prestigious awards for the visual arts in Europe or cold mechanical, conceptual bullshit?

7. The Royal Navy: Down by the head with two and a halfs or what?
Not just down by the heads-all over the bloody place
 
sgtpepperband said:
Why do ginger people stink of piss? 8O :wink:

Okay, something more serious...

1. Why is there 'something' rather than 'nothing at all'?
2. If two persons who have all the same experiences disagree about some matter of fact, has at least one of them violated some rule of good reasoning?
3. If two distinct objects have something in common then in what ways are they the same and different?
4. Since my acts are caused by my choices and my choices caused by my beliefs and desires and my beliefs and desires are not in my direct control, how can it be that my acts are free?
5. Is what is good, good because the gods commanded it or did the gods command it because it was good?
6. Must there be some basic element of reality from which everything else is composed?
7. Does time have a beginning?
8. If I think of a being greater than which none can be conceived must this being exist?
9. Since minds have properties natural objects lack, how can minds be a part of nature?
10. Does God Exist?
11. Love or money which is better?
12. Why are fools and fanatics always so certain of themselves, but wiser people are full of doubts?
13. Why do all good things come to an end?
14. What is the fundamental flaw in human nature? Pride - or greed?
15. Can you prove to me that you exist?
16. How do you gain wisdom and knowledge?
17. If you found out the meaning of life, would you share it for free, keep it to yourself, or charge fees for enlightenment?
18. Can say your favourite and very meaningful philosophical statement?
19. What does death feel like?
20. Is it wrong to love yourself?
21. Would you kill one person to save a thousand?
22. In the chessboard of life, what chess piece are you?
23. Is the human race essentially good?
24. Are you important? Do you really matter?
25. At the end of your life would you be more likely to regret something you did or regret something you didn't do?

Good one, SPB. If I may be permitted to bore you with my own Fun/Not Fun/Boring meter ... (Others will have their own favourites, thoughts, etc. ) ... :thumright:

1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 9, 15, 18, 19, 23- Nonsense. Good examples of the kinds of puzzles Wittgenstein railed against, and that's why for 18 my choice would be 'Philosophy is a battle against the bewitchment of our intelligence by means of language'.
6- The Euthyphro dilemma. - Fun.
10. - Aquinas to Dawkins. - Fun.
20. Interesting. Will have to think about this one.- Fun.
21. Utilitarianism and versions of it. Fun. Sometimes.
22. Management 'science' bollocks. - Not fun.
14, 16, 17, 23, 24, 25 - Boring. Not fun.
Cheers! :thumright:
 

sgtpepperband

War Hero
Book Reviewer
HB: WOW! Someone actually read it... and I agree with your observations. However I chuckled to myself when I got to:

SPB said:
20. Is it wrong to love yourself?

I couldn't help but think of "Norman"... 8O :lol:
 
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