The Belgian Bloke

#1
I see the EU has given some grey gentleman from a grey country the title of “Presidentâ€. Well, I for one, do not recognise him as representing me. I suspect that many other RR members feel the same. Therefore can we just refer to him as the “Belgian bloke†in any future threads?

As far as the unelected Labour peer Baroness Ashton, who was parachuted into Mandy Prince of Browness’ old job as unelected commissioner, she is now EU Foreign spokesthingy. AAAARGH!! :evil:
 
#7
Blackrat said:
Can anyone name ten (real) famous Belgians apart from Audrey Hepburn & Herge?
Aerts, Jean, cyclist
Albert I, King of Belgium from 1909 to 1934
Albert II, King of Belgium since August 1993
Arfeuille, Walter, Guinness Record - lifted 281.5kg a distance of 17cm off the ground with his teeth in 1990
Baekeland, Leo Hendrik, inventor of the synthetic resin known as "bakelite"
Becue, Brigitte, swimmer
Beernaert, Auguste, winner of the 1909 Nobel Peace Prize and prime minister of Belgium (1884-1894)
Bègue, Lambert le, first priest to organise communities of Beguines
Bekaert, Leo Leander, founder of Bekaert N.V.
Benoit, Peter, composer and founder of the Royal Flemish Conservatory
Berghmans, Ingrid, judo champion
Bertrand, Plastic, punk/rock singer of 'Ca Plane Pour Moi' fame
Binchois, Gilles, 15th century composer
Bolland, Jean, Flemish Jesuit and hagiographer
Bologne, Jean, Flemish sculptor
Bordet, Jules, bacteriologist who developed vaccine for whooping cough
Bosman, Jean-Marc, footballer who changed the transfer rules
Boudewijn, King of Belgium from 1951 to 1993
Bourignon, Antoinette, mystic and advocate of quietism
Boutsen, Thiery, Formula 1 driver
Brel, Jacques, legendary chansonnier / singer
Brouwer, Adriaen, painter
Bruegel the Elder, Pieter, painter
Cammaerts, Emile Leon, poet
Campin, Robert, painter
Ceulemans, Jan, international football player
Ceulemans, Raymond, 17-times Word Champion billiard player
Claes, Ernest, novelist and short-story writer
Claes, Willy, ex-NATO Secretary General
Claiborne, Liz, fashion designer
Claude, Albert, biochemist who was the first to isolate a cancer cell
Claus, Hugo, poet, dramatist, novelist and film writer
Clijsters, Kim, world-class tennis player
Coninx, Stijn, director of "Daens" (nominated for an Oscar® in 1992)
Conscience, Hendrik, novelist and short-story writer who "taught the people how to read"
Coopman, Jean-Pierre, the only Belgian boxer ever to fight the great Mohammed Ali
Cooreman, Gerhard, prime minister of Belgium (1918)
Cortázar, Julio, writer
Cuisenaire, Georges, Belgian teacher famous for his method of teaching mathematics
Culliford, Pierre, alias "Peyo", the creator of "The Smurfs"
Damien, Father (Pater Damiaan), missionary on the leper island of Molokai, Hawaii
David, Gerard, Flemish painter
Davidse, Bob, TV presenter ("Nonkel Bob" from "Tip Top")
d'Alviella, Count Goblet, prime minister of Belgium (1831, 1832-34)
d'Anethan, Jules Joseph, prime minister of Belgium (1870-71)
De Bériot, Charles, violinist
De Broqueville, Charles, prime minister of Belgium (1911-18, 1932-34)
De Brouckere, Henri, prime minister of Belgium (1852-55)
De Burlet, Jules, prime minister of Belgium (1894-96)
Deckers, Jeanne (Soeur Sourire), who had a number one hit in the US with 'Dominique'
De Clercq, Guy, water skier
De Decker, Pierre, prime minister of Belgium (1855-57)
De Duve, Christian, winner of the 1974 Nobel Prize for Physiology and discoverer of lysosomes and peixosomes
De Ghelderode, Michel, dramatist
Dehaene, Jean-Luc, Prime Minister of Belgium (1992-99)
De Muelenare, Felix Amand, prime minister of Belgium (1831-32)
De Rore, Cyprien, Belgian composer who produced the first score for voices
De Sauvage, Count, prime minister of Belgium (1831)
De Smedt, Edward, chemist and inventor of modern-day road asphalt
De Smet, Pierre Jean, missionary
De Smet de Nayer, Paul, prime minister of Belgium (1896-1907)
De Theux, Bartholemy Theodore, prime minister of Belgium (1834-40, 1846-47)
De Trooz, Jules, prime minister of Belgium (1907-08)
De Vlaeminck, Eric, cyclo-cross champion
De Vlaeminck, Roger, cyclist
De Vriendt, Cornelis Floris, designer of Antwerp Town Hall
De Wiart, Henri Carton, prime minister of Belgium (1920-21)
De Wilde, Etienne, track cyclist (Silver medal at Sydney 2000)
Des Prez, Josquin, composer
Deburghgraeve, Fred, 100m Breaststroke Gold medal winner at Atlanta 96 and ex-World Record holder
Delacroix, Leon, prime minister of Belgium (1918-20)
Delstanche, Charles, pioneer in otology
Delvaux, Paul, surrealist painter
Demeulemeester, Ann, fashion designer
Denijn, Jef, campanology expert
Duvieusart, Jean Pierre, prime minister of Belgium (1950)
Egmont, Lamoral, general and statesman
Ensor, James Sidney, painter
Eyskens, Gaston, prime minister of Belgium (1949-50, 1958-61, 1968-72)
Eyskens, Marc, prime minister of Belgium (1981)
Ferdi, Will, singer and first Belgian personality to announce he was gay (real name Werner Ferdinande)
Franck, César Auguste, composer and organist
Franquin, Andre, creator of the "Guust Flater" and "Marsupilami" comic series
Frere-Orban, H J Walthere, prime minister of Belgium (1857-70, 1878-84)
Frimout, Dirk, the first Belgian astronaut to enter space
Fyt, Jan, painter and etcher
Geboers, Eric, moto-cross rider
Gerlache, Adrien de, commander of the first scientific Antarctic expedition
Geulincx, Arnold, Flemish philosopher
Gezelle, Guido, Roman Catholic priest, teacher and poet
Gilmore, Matthew, track cyclist (Silver medal at Sydney 2000)
Godefroid, Sebastien, great sailor and Silver medallist in the Finn class sailing event at Atlanta 96
Goethals, Raymond, trainer of the Belgian National Football Team for 10 years
Goossens, Cas, ex-Managing Director of the BRTN and Chairman of Eurosport
Gramme, Zénobe, inventor of the Gramme dynamo
Grétry, André, composer
Grumiaux, Arthur, eminent violinist
Harmel, Pierre, prime minister of Belgium (1965-66)
Hellebuyck, Eddy, 100m sprinter and finalist at Atlanta 96
Hennepin, Louis, first European to explore the upper Mississippi river
Henin, Justine, world-class tennis player
Hepburn, Audrey, actress and special ambassador to UNICEF
Herge, the creator of "Tin Tin" (Kuifje) - his real name is Georges Remi
Heylen, Ivan, Flemish singer
Heymans, Corneille, winner of the 1938 Nobel Prize for Physiology
Horta, Victor, Art Nouveau architect
Huysmans, Camille, prime minister of Belgium (1946-47)
Ickx, Jacky, Formula 1 racing driver
Jacobs, Victor, prime minister of Belgium (1884)
Jansen, Cornelis, Flemish theologian who founded the Jansenism movement
Janson, Paul Emile, prime minister of Belgium (1937-38)
Jaspar, Henri, prime minister of Belgium (1926-31)
Jobe, Georges, moto-cross rider
Jordaens, Jacob, painter
Joseph, Albert, prime minister of Belgium (1831, 1832-34)
Joseph, Etienne Noel, prime minister of Belgium (1831)
Kim, Sandra, youngest ever winner of the Eurovision Song Contest
Klein, Dani, lead singer of Belgium's most successful band "Vaya Con Dios" (sold 10 million CD's)
La Fontaine, Henri, winner of the 1913 Nobel Peace Prize
Lambrechts, Esther, singer better known as "La Esterella"
Lasso, Orlando di, composer
Lateau, Louise, Belgian lady who experienced "stigmata"
Lebeau, Joseph, prime minister of Belgium (1832-34, 1840-41)
Leburton, Edmond, prime minister of Belgium (1973-74)
Lefevre, Theodore, prime minister of Belgium (1961-65)
Lemaître, Georges, astronomer who discovered the Big Bang theory
Lemonnier, Camille, novelist and founder of the Belgian literary renaissance
Lenoir, Jean Joseph Etienne, inventor of the internal-combustion engine
Leopold I, King of Belgium from 1831 to 1865
Leopold II, King of Belgium from 1865 to 1909
Leopold III, King of Belgium from 1934 to 1951
Loiseau, Constant, inventor of the optometer
Lomba, Marie-Isabelle, great judoka and Bronze medallist at Atlanta 96
Lotti, Helmut, international pop singer
Maertens, Freddy, cyclist
Maeterlinck, Maurice, author
Magritte, Rene, painter and theorist of surrealism
Mallise, Xavier, world-class tennis player
Malou, Jules, prime minister of Belgium (1846-47, 1874-78, 1884)
Martens, Wilfried, prime minister of Belgium (1979-92)
Massis, John, the man with the strongest teeth in the world
Matsys, Quentin, Flemish painter who founded the Antwerp school
Meirhaege, Filip, mountain biker (Silver medal at Sydney 2000)
Mercator, Gerardus, cartographer, mathematician and geographer
Merckx, Eddy, cyclist and 5-time winner of the Tour de France
Nothomb, Jean-Baptiste, prime minister of Belgium (1841-45)
Ockeghem, Johannes, Flemish composer
Ortelius, Abraham, Flemish geographer who produced the first modern atlas
Peeters, Bart, radio and TV presenter
Pfaff, Jean-Marie, international goal keeper
Philips, Luk, brilliant actor ("Pastoor Munte" and "Bompa")
Pholien, Joseph, prime minister of Belgium (1950-52)
Pien, Armand, Belgian weather man for more than 35 years
Pierlot, Hubert, prime minister of Belgium (1939-45)
Pire, Dominique, winner of the 1958 Nobel Peace Prize
Pirenne, Henri, historian, well-known for his Pirenne Thesis
Planckaert, Eddy, cyclist
Plantin, Christophe, bookbinder and typography expert
Plateau, Joseph, inventor of the stroboscope
Poirot, Hercule, Belgian detective
Poullet, Prosper, prime minister of Belgium (1925-26)
Prigogine, Ilya, chemical physicist famous for his theoretical framework on the origin of life
Puttemans, Emiel, long-distance runner
Quetelet, Lambert Adolphe, mathematician and inventor of the Body Mass Index
Rakels, Heidi, judoka (Bronze medal at the Barcelona Olympics in 1992)
Reinhardt, Jean Baptiste "Django", inventor of the two-finger guitar playing technique
Remi, Georges, better known as Hergé, the creator of "Tin Tin" (Kuifje)
Renkin, Jules, prime minister of Belgium (1931-32)
Reynders, Yvonne, cyclist
Robert, Joel, moto-cross rider
Rodenbach, Albrecht, poet
Rodenbach, Georges, poet and novelist
Roelands, Gaston, long-distance runner
Rogge, Jacques, President of the IOC (International Olympic Committee)
Rogier, Charles Latour, prime minister of Belgium (1832-34, 1847-52, 1857-68)
Rolin-Jaequemyns, Gustave, who co-founded the Institute of International Law in Ghent in 1873
Röpcke, Jo, respected film critic - nobody in Belgium has seen more films than him
Rouffaer, Senne, actor who is better known as "Kapitein Zeppos" (Captain Zeppos)
Rousseau, Vincent, marathon runner
Rubens, Peter Paul, painter
Rysbrack, John Michael, sculptor
Saive, Jean-Michel, table-tennis player
Sarton, May Eleanor, poet and novelist
Sax, Adolphe, inventor of the saxophone
Scherens, Jef, cyclist
Schoepen, Bobbejaan, Flemish singer and ex-owner of "Bobbejaanland" (real name Modest Schoepen)
Schollaert, Frans, prime minister of Belgium (1908-11)
Schotte, Briek, cyclist
Schueremans, Herman, organiser of the annual Torhout-Werchter Rock Festival
Scifo, Enzo, international football player
Sercu, Patrick, cyclist
Simenon, Georges, writer
Simons, Ann, judoka (Bronze medal at Sydney 2000)
Singing Nun, The (Soeur Sourire), who had a number one hit in the US with 'Dominique'
Snyders, Frans, painter
Solvay, Ernest, inventor of the Solvay process (ammonia)
Spaak, Paul Henri, founder of the Benelux and prime minister of Belgium (1938-39, 1946, 1947-49)
Stevens, Patrick, Belgium's best 100m sprinter
Stevin, Simon, mathematician and engineer
Streuvels, Stijn, novelist
Teirlinck, Herman, novelist and playwright
Teniers the Younger, David, painter and engraver
Theunis, George, prime minister of Belgium (1921-25, 1934-35)
Thielemans, Toots, world-famous jazz musician
Thijs, Philippe, cyclist
Thys, Guy, coach of the Belgian National Football Team for 15 years
Tilly, Johann Tserclaes, field marshall
Timmermans, Felix, author
Tindemans, Leo, prime minister of Belgium (1974-78)
Tin Tin, created by Herge (Georges Remi)
Tura, Will, Flemish singer (real name Arthur Blanckaert)
Urbanus, Belgium's funniest comedian (real name Urbain Servranckx)
Van Acker, Achiel, prime minister of Belgium (1945-46, 1954-58)
Van Artevelde, Jacob, statesman and political leader
Van Barneveld, Harry, great judoka and Bronze medallist at Atlanta 96
Van Beirendonck, Walter, fashion designer
Van Damme, Ivo, athleet
Van Damme, Jean-Claude, action-film hero
Van Depoele, Charles, inventor of the electric railway
Van Donck, Flory, golf player
Van Dyck, Anton, painter
Van Ghent, Joos, Flemish painter
Van Ginderen, Terry, TV presenter ("Tante Terry" from "Tip Top")
Van Helmont, Jan Baptista, physician / chemist who showed that plants feed mostly on water, not soil
Van Himst, Paul, international football player and coach
Van Hool, Bernard, founder of international coachbuilder Van Hool NV
Van Houtte, Jean, prime minister of Belgium (1952-54)
Van Humbeeck, Pierre Edouard, prime minister of Belgium (1878-84)
Van Looy, Rik, cyclist
Van Miert, Karel, ex-European Commissioner for Competition (EEC)
Van Moer, Wilfried, international football player
Van Noten, Dries, fashion designer
Van Ostayen, Paul, Flemish poet
Van Rompaey, Jan, TV journalist
Van Roost, Dominique, tennis player
Van Ruysbroeck, Jan, mystic beatified by Pope Pius X
Van Steenbergen, Rik, cyclist
Van Zeeland, Paul, prime minister of Belgium (1935-37)
Van de Velde, Henri Clemens, Art Nouveau architect
Van de Vyvere, Alois, prime minister of Belgium (1925)
Van de Weyer, Jean-Sylvain, prime minister of Belgium (1845-46)
Van de Woestijne, Karel, poet
Vandecaveye, Gella, great judoka (Silver medal at Atlanta 1996 and Bronze medal at Sydney 2000)
Vandenpeerebom, Jules, prime minister of Belgium (1899)
Vanden Boeynants, Paul, prime minister of Belgium (1966-68, 1978)
Vandevelde, Luc, ex-Chairman of Marks and Spencer
Vanthilt, Marcel, ex-VJ on MTV and leadsinger of the band "Arbeid Adelt"
Van der Goes, Hugo, Flemish painter
Van der Groen, Dora, actress best known for her role in "De Heren van Zichem" (The Men from Zichem)
Van der Weyden, Rogier, painter
Van het Groenewoud, Raymond, singer
Verhaeren, Emile, Flemish poet
Verhofstadt, Guy, prime minister of Belgium (1999-2007)
Vermeiren, Paul, archer
Vesalius, Andreas, famous anatomist and physician
Vieuxtemps, Henri, violinist and composer
Wally, Eddy, world-famous Flemish singer also known as "The Voice of Europe"
Werbrouck, Ulla, great judoka and Gold medallist at Atlanta 96
Woeste, Charles, prime minister of Belgium (1884)
Wauters, Koen, leadsinger of the popular band "Clouseau"
Yourcenar, Marguerite, novelist
Ysaýe, Eugène, violinist, conductor and composer
Zimmer, Louis, world-famous clockmaker


Soporific or what?
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#9
Belgium is hardly one country being split between those speaking French and those speaking Flemish, and trust me the two sides do not get on.
In fact quite of lot of our neighbours do not have one single language for the entire country; Spain has at least four languages, one of which is spoken by more people than the entire population of Finland and Norway put together, and it is not Spanish which is spoken by more than 400 million people.
The French language as we know it was only introduced totally a few decades ago.
A lot of EU countries, in fact most, are far less centralised that the UK.
 
#10
BreathingOutOnTheWayUp said:
Blackrat said:
Can anyone name ten (real) famous Belgians apart from Audrey Hepburn & Herge?
Aerts, Jean, cyclist
Albert I, King of Belgium from 1909 to 1934
Albert II, King of Belgium since August 1993
Arfeuille, Walter, Guinness Record - lifted 281.5kg a distance of 17cm off the ground with his teeth in 1990
Baekeland, Leo Hendrik, inventor of the synthetic resin known as "Bakelite"
Becue, Brigitte, swimmer
Beernaert, Auguste, winner of the 1909 Nobel Peace Prize and prime minister of Belgium (1884-1894)
Bègue, Lambert le, first priest to organise communities of Beguines
Bekaert, Leo Leander, founder of Bekaert N.V.
Benoit, Peter, composer and founder of the Royal Flemish Conservatory
Berghmans, Ingrid, judo champion
Bertrand, Plastic, punk/rock singer of 'Ca Plane Pour Moi' fame
Binchois, Gilles, 15th century composer
Bolland, Jean, Flemish Jesuit and hagiographer
Bologne, Jean, Flemish sculptor
Bordet, Jules, bacteriologist who developed vaccine for whooping cough
Bosman, Jean-Marc, footballer who changed the transfer rules
Boudewijn, King of Belgium from 1951 to 1993
Bourignon, Antoinette, mystic and advocate of quietism
Boutsen, Thiery, Formula 1 driver
Brel, Jacques, legendary chansonnier / singer
Brouwer, Adriaen, painter
Bruegel the Elder, Pieter, painter
Cammaerts, Emile Leon, poet
Campin, Robert, painter
Ceulemans, Jan, international football player
Ceulemans, Raymond, 17-times Word Champion billiard player
Claes, Ernest, novelist and short-story writer
Claes, Willy, ex-NATO Secretary General
Claiborne, Liz, fashion designer
Claude, Albert, biochemist who was the first to isolate a cancer cell
Claus, Hugo, poet, dramatist, novelist and film writer
Clijsters, Kim, world-class tennis player
Coninx, Stijn, director of "Daens" (nominated for an Oscar® in 1992)
Conscience, Hendrik, novelist and short-story writer who "taught the people how to read"
Coopman, Jean-Pierre, the only Belgian boxer ever to fight the great Mohammed Ali
Cooreman, Gerhard, prime minister of Belgium (1918)
Cortázar, Julio, writer
Cuisenaire, Georges, Belgian teacher famous for his method of teaching mathematics
Culliford, Pierre, alias "Peyo", the creator of "The Smurfs"
Damien, Father (Pater Damiaan), missionary on the leper island of Molokai, Hawaii
David, Gerard, Flemish painter
Davidse, Bob, TV presenter ("Nonkel Bob" from "Tip Top")
d'Alviella, Count Goblet, prime minister of Belgium (1831, 1832-34)
d'Anethan, Jules Joseph, prime minister of Belgium (1870-71)
De Bériot, Charles, violinist
De Broqueville, Charles, prime minister of Belgium (1911-18, 1932-34)
De Brouckere, Henri, prime minister of Belgium (1852-55)
De Burlet, Jules, prime minister of Belgium (1894-96)
Deckers, Jeanne (Soeur Sourire), who had a number one hit in the US with 'Dominique'
De Clercq, Guy, water skier
De Decker, Pierre, prime minister of Belgium (1855-57)
De Duve, Christian, winner of the 1974 Nobel Prize for Physiology and discoverer of lysosomes and peixosomes
De Ghelderode, Michel, dramatist
Dehaene, Jean-Luc, Prime Minister of Belgium (1992-99)
De Muelenare, Felix Amand, prime minister of Belgium (1831-32)
De Rore, Cyprien, Belgian composer who produced the first score for voices
De Sauvage, Count, prime minister of Belgium (1831)
De Smedt, Edward, chemist and inventor of modern-day road asphalt
De Smet, Pierre Jean, missionary
De Smet de Nayer, Paul, prime minister of Belgium (1896-1907)
De Theux, Bartholemy Theodore, prime minister of Belgium (1834-40, 1846-47)
De Trooz, Jules, prime minister of Belgium (1907-08)
De Vlaeminck, Eric, cyclo-cross champion
De Vlaeminck, Roger, cyclist
De Vriendt, Cornelis Floris, designer of Antwerp Town Hall
De Wiart, Henri Carton, prime minister of Belgium (1920-21)
De Wilde, Etienne, track cyclist (Silver medal at Sydney 2000)
Des Prez, Josquin, composer
Deburghgraeve, Fred, 100m Breaststroke Gold medal winner at Atlanta 96 and ex-World Record holder
Delacroix, Leon, prime minister of Belgium (1918-20)
Delstanche, Charles, pioneer in otology
Delvaux, Paul, surrealist painter
Demeulemeester, Ann, fashion designer
Denijn, Jef, campanology expert
Duvieusart, Jean Pierre, prime minister of Belgium (1950)
Egmont, Lamoral, general and statesman
Ensor, James Sidney, painter
Eyskens, Gaston, prime minister of Belgium (1949-50, 1958-61, 1968-72)
Eyskens, Marc, prime minister of Belgium (1981)
Ferdi, Will, singer and first Belgian personality to announce he was gay (real name Werner Ferdinande)
Franck, César Auguste, composer and organist
Franquin, Andre, creator of the "Guust Flater" and "Marsupilami" comic series
Frere-Orban, H J Walthere, prime minister of Belgium (1857-70, 1878-84)
Frimout, Dirk, the first Belgian astronaut to enter space
Fyt, Jan, painter and etcher
Geboers, Eric, moto-cross rider
Gerlache, Adrien de, commander of the first scientific Antarctic expedition
Geulincx, Arnold, Flemish philosopher
Gezelle, Guido, Roman Catholic priest, teacher and poet
Gilmore, Matthew, track cyclist (Silver medal at Sydney 2000)
Godefroid, Sebastien, great sailor and Silver medallist in the Finn class sailing event at Atlanta 96
Goethals, Raymond, trainer of the Belgian National Football Team for 10 years
Goossens, Cas, ex-Managing Director of the BRTN and Chairman of Eurosport
Gramme, Zénobe, inventor of the Gramme dynamo
Grétry, André, composer
Grumiaux, Arthur, eminent violinist
Harmel, Pierre, prime minister of Belgium (1965-66)
Hellebuyck, Eddy, 100m sprinter and finalist at Atlanta 96
Hennepin, Louis, first European to explore the upper Mississippi river
Henin, Justine, world-class tennis player
Hepburn, Audrey, actress and special ambassador to UNICEF
Herge, the creator of "Tin Tin" (Kuifje) - his real name is Georges Remi
Heylen, Ivan, Flemish singer
Heymans, Corneille, winner of the 1938 Nobel Prize for Physiology
Horta, Victor, Art Nouveau architect
Huysmans, Camille, prime minister of Belgium (1946-47)
Ickx, Jacky, Formula 1 racing driver
Jacobs, Victor, prime minister of Belgium (1884)
Jansen, Cornelis, Flemish theologian who founded the Jansenism movement
Janson, Paul Emile, prime minister of Belgium (1937-38)
Jaspar, Henri, prime minister of Belgium (1926-31)
Jobe, Georges, moto-cross rider
Jordaens, Jacob, painter
Joseph, Albert, prime minister of Belgium (1831, 1832-34)
Joseph, Etienne Noel, prime minister of Belgium (1831)
Kim, Sandra, youngest ever winner of the Eurovision Song Contest
Klein, Dani, lead singer of Belgium's most successful band "Vaya Con Dios" (sold 10 million CD's)
La Fontaine, Henri, winner of the 1913 Nobel Peace Prize
Lambrechts, Esther, singer better known as "La Esterella"
Lasso, Orlando di, composer
Lateau, Louise, Belgian lady who experienced "stigmata"
Lebeau, Joseph, prime minister of Belgium (1832-34, 1840-41)
Leburton, Edmond, prime minister of Belgium (1973-74)
Lefevre, Theodore, prime minister of Belgium (1961-65)
Lemaître, Georges, astronomer who discovered the Big Bang theory
Lemonnier, Camille, novelist and founder of the Belgian literary renaissance
Lenoir, Jean Joseph Etienne, inventor of the internal-combustion engine
Leopold I, King of Belgium from 1831 to 1865
Leopold II, King of Belgium from 1865 to 1909
Leopold III, King of Belgium from 1934 to 1951
Loiseau, Constant, inventor of the optometer
Lomba, Marie-Isabelle, great judoka and Bronze medallist at Atlanta 96
Lotti, Helmut, international pop singer
Maertens, Freddy, cyclist
Maeterlinck, Maurice, author
Magritte, Rene, painter and theorist of surrealism
Mallise, Xavier, world-class tennis player
Malou, Jules, prime minister of Belgium (1846-47, 1874-78, 1884)
Martens, Wilfried, prime minister of Belgium (1979-92)
Massis, John, the man with the strongest teeth in the world
Matsys, Quentin, Flemish painter who founded the Antwerp school
Meirhaege, Filip, mountain biker (Silver medal at Sydney 2000)
Mercator, Gerardus, cartographer, mathematician and geographer
Merckx, Eddy, cyclist and 5-time winner of the Tour de France
Nothomb, Jean-Baptiste, prime minister of Belgium (1841-45)
Ockeghem, Johannes, Flemish composer
Ortelius, Abraham, Flemish geographer who produced the first modern atlas
Peeters, Bart, radio and TV presenter
Pfaff, Jean-Marie, international goal keeper
Philips, Luk, brilliant actor ("Pastoor Munte" and "Bompa")
Pholien, Joseph, prime minister of Belgium (1950-52)
Pien, Armand, Belgian weather man for more than 35 years
Pierlot, Hubert, prime minister of Belgium (1939-45)
Pire, Dominique, winner of the 1958 Nobel Peace Prize
Pirenne, Henri, historian, well-known for his Pirenne Thesis
Planckaert, Eddy, cyclist
Plantin, Christophe, bookbinder and typography expert
Plateau, Joseph, inventor of the stroboscope
Poirot, Hercule, Belgian detective
Poullet, Prosper, prime minister of Belgium (1925-26)
Prigogine, Ilya, chemical physicist famous for his theoretical framework on the origin of life
Puttemans, Emiel, long-distance runner
Quetelet, Lambert Adolphe, mathematician and inventor of the Body Mass Index
Rakels, Heidi, judoka (Bronze medal at the Barcelona Olympics in 1992)
Reinhardt, Jean Baptiste "Django", inventor of the two-finger guitar playing technique
Remi, Georges, better known as Hergé, the creator of "Tin Tin" (Kuifje)
Renkin, Jules, prime minister of Belgium (1931-32)
Reynders, Yvonne, cyclist
Robert, Joel, moto-cross rider
Rodenbach, Albrecht, poet
Rodenbach, Georges, poet and novelist
Roelands, Gaston, long-distance runner
Rogge, Jacques, President of the IOC (International Olympic Committee)
Rogier, Charles Latour, prime minister of Belgium (1832-34, 1847-52, 1857-68)
Rolin-Jaequemyns, Gustave, who co-founded the Institute of International Law in Ghent in 1873
Röpcke, Jo, respected film critic - nobody in Belgium has seen more films than him
Rouffaer, Senne, actor who is better known as "Kapitein Zeppos" (Captain Zeppos)
Rousseau, Vincent, marathon runner
Rubens, Peter Paul, painter
Rysbrack, John Michael, sculptor
Saive, Jean-Michel, table-tennis player
Sarton, May Eleanor, poet and novelist
Sax, Adolphe, inventor of the saxophone
Scherens, Jef, cyclist
Schoepen, Bobbejaan, Flemish singer and ex-owner of "Bobbejaanland" (real name Modest Schoepen)
Schollaert, Frans, prime minister of Belgium (1908-11)
Schotte, Briek, cyclist
Schueremans, Herman, organiser of the annual Torhout-Werchter Rock Festival
Scifo, Enzo, international football player
Sercu, Patrick, cyclist
Simenon, Georges, writer
Simons, Ann, judoka (Bronze medal at Sydney 2000)
Singing Nun, The (Soeur Sourire), who had a number one hit in the US with 'Dominique'
Snyders, Frans, painter
Solvay, Ernest, inventor of the Solvay process (ammonia)
Spaak, Paul Henri, founder of the Benelux and prime minister of Belgium (1938-39, 1946, 1947-49)
Stevens, Patrick, Belgium's best 100m sprinter
Stevin, Simon, mathematician and engineer
Streuvels, Stijn, novelist
Teirlinck, Herman, novelist and playwright
Teniers the Younger, David, painter and engraver
Theunis, George, prime minister of Belgium (1921-25, 1934-35)
Thielemans, Toots, world-famous jazz musician
Thijs, Philippe, cyclist
Thys, Guy, coach of the Belgian National Football Team for 15 years
Tilly, Johann Tserclaes, field marshall
Timmermans, Felix, author
Tindemans, Leo, prime minister of Belgium (1974-78)
Tin Tin, created by Herge (Georges Remi)
Tura, Will, Flemish singer (real name Arthur Blanckaert)
Urbanus, Belgium's funniest comedian (real name Urbain Servranckx)
Van Acker, Achiel, prime minister of Belgium (1945-46, 1954-58)
Van Artevelde, Jacob, statesman and political leader
Van Barneveld, Harry, great judoka and Bronze medallist at Atlanta 96
Van Beirendonck, Walter, fashion designer
Van Damme, Ivo, athleet
Van Damme, Jean-Claude, action-film hero
Van Depoele, Charles, inventor of the electric railway
Van Donck, Flory, golf player
Van Dyck, Anton, painter
Van Ghent, Joos, Flemish painter
Van Ginderen, Terry, TV presenter ("Tante Terry" from "Tip Top")
Van Helmont, Jan Baptista, physician / chemist who showed that plants feed mostly on water, not soil
Van Himst, Paul, international football player and coach
Van Hool, Bernard, founder of international coachbuilder Van Hool NV
Van Houtte, Jean, prime minister of Belgium (1952-54)
Van Humbeeck, Pierre Edouard, prime minister of Belgium (1878-84)
Van Looy, Rik, cyclist
Van Miert, Karel, ex-European Commissioner for Competition (EEC)
Van Moer, Wilfried, international football player
Van Noten, Dries, fashion designer
Van Ostayen, Paul, Flemish poet
Van Rompaey, Jan, TV journalist
Van Roost, Dominique, tennis player
Van Ruysbroeck, Jan, mystic beatified by Pope Pius X
Van Steenbergen, Rik, cyclist
Van Zeeland, Paul, prime minister of Belgium (1935-37)
Van de Velde, Henri Clemens, Art Nouveau architect
Van de Vyvere, Alois, prime minister of Belgium (1925)
Van de Weyer, Jean-Sylvain, prime minister of Belgium (1845-46)
Van de Woestijne, Karel, poet
Vandecaveye, Gella, great judoka (Silver medal at Atlanta 1996 and Bronze medal at Sydney 2000)
Vandenpeerebom, Jules, prime minister of Belgium (1899)
Vanden Boeynants, Paul, prime minister of Belgium (1966-68, 1978)
Vandevelde, Luc, ex-Chairman of Marks and Spencer
Vanthilt, Marcel, ex-VJ on MTV and leadsinger of the band "Arbeid Adelt"
Van der Goes, Hugo, Flemish painter
Van der Groen, Dora, actress best known for her role in "De Heren van Zichem" (The Men from Zichem)
Van der Weyden, Rogier, painter
Van het Groenewoud, Raymond, singer
Verhaeren, Emile, Flemish poet
Verhofstadt, Guy, prime minister of Belgium (1999-2007)
Vermeiren, Paul, archer
Vesalius, Andreas, famous anatomist and physician
Vieuxtemps, Henri, violinist and composer
Wally, Eddy, world-famous Flemish singer also known as "The Voice of Europe"
Werbrouck, Ulla, great judoka and Gold medallist at Atlanta 96
Woeste, Charles, prime minister of Belgium (1884)
Wauters, Koen, leadsinger of the popular band "Clouseau"
Yourcenar, Marguerite, novelist
Ysaýe, Eugène, violinist, conductor and composer
Zimmer, Louis, world-famous clockmaker


Soporific or what?
:twisted:
For fcuk sake Bob what part of famouse do you not understand? Now answer the question properly 8O :wink: :D
 
#11
TimeToJoinUp. That’s a good question. That may be the reasoning behind this lunacy;

http://www.navy-net.co.uk/Forums/viewtopic/t=23589.html

sussex2. That is interesting and might be a reason behind the European desire for unity. Perhaps they see a Union which has their “divided†Countries as nothing more than constituent elements as some form security. Rather than being a minority in something they’d prefer to be independent of, they can be a minority in something bigger and more abstract.

Serious question; do the Scots feel more content being run by the EU than they do by feeling they are run by the English?

BreathingOutOnTheWayUp. Apart from them?
 

sgtpepperband

War Hero
Moderator
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#12
sussex2 said:
Belgium is hardly one country being split between those speaking French and those speaking Flemish, and trust me the two sides do not get on....
A perfect breeding ground for European unity, then... 8O
 
#15
sgtpepperband said:
sussex2 said:
Belgium is hardly one country being split between those speaking French and those speaking Flemish, and trust me the two sides do not get on....
A perfect breeding ground for European unity, then... 8O
Unity? Unity? What on earth are you talking about man.. :roll:
 
#16
Passed-over_Loggie said:
TimeToJoinUp. That’s a good question. That may be the reasoning behind this lunacy;

http://www.navy-net.co.uk/Forums/viewtopic/t=23589.html

sussex2. That is interesting and might be a reason behind the European desire for unity. Perhaps they see a Union which has their “divided†Countries as nothing more than constituent elements as some form security. Rather than being a minority in something they’d prefer to be independent of, they can be a minority in something bigger and more abstract.

Serious question; do the Scots feel more content being run by the EU than they do by feeling they are run by the English?

BreathingOutOnTheWayUp. Apart from them?
Ah but the union between Scotland and England (the Welsh don't count) is exactly that, a union, not a takeover. The Scots entered into it willingly and presumably with full knowledge of what they might mean.
Should they become independent they will then have to decide amongst other things:
Which countries or unions they wish to ally themselves with.
To decide which currency to adopt and how to defend themselves.
In fact how to support themselves at all.
Simples! It ain't going to be.
Edited because of crap spelling.
 
#17
sussex2 said:
......Ah but the union between Scotland and England (the Welsh don't count) is exactly that, a union, not a takeover. The Scots entered into it willingly......
Not a Jock, so treading on eggshells a bit, but I doubt that "the Scots entered into it willingly". It strikes me that the average Scot of those days had about as much say in the Union as we have had in appointing a Belgian as our "President" and a never- elected Quango bottom-feeder as the High Representative - whatever that turns out to be!
 
#18
For fcuk sake Bob what part of famouse do you not understand? Now answer the question properly
Hello Brum Brat, mon viuex,

Please accept my humble and sincere apologies – my only excuse is that I was busy elsewhere (as the sole lookout on Ja5on-watch) and therefore I admit to having posted in some undue haste, sire.

In accord with your wish: Herewith is my carefully revised list of Belgiques Famooses.

At your age you will be well familiar with most on this list; but, for the benefit of those less blessed, this should provide some further enlightenment, in the hallowed names of ‘Couth and Culture’ (which we all profess to seek in our rare excursions ashore……)


Eddy Merckx (b. 1945) Notable in that he responded more than most to Norman Tebbitt’s strident call ‘To get on your bike’.
Our Eddy won the Tour de France FIVE times in his career; before the era of ‘back-pedalling’, ‘performance enhancement’ and ‘testicular cancer’ was to encompass and diminish that noble sport. Dockyard tram-lines having also increased the casualty rate.


Peter Paul Rubens. (1577 - 1640) The baroque painter who was the most renowned northern European artist of his day& one of the foremost painters in Western art history.
‘Rube’ churned out many allegorical paintings with huge colourful busts and bums. If you view any example (ie in the National Gallery) you will discover that those bums somehow always seem to be following you around…..

Eg: http://www.nationalgalleries.org/media/5/diana_and_callisto_by_peter_paul_rubens_after_titian.jpg


"Jacky" Ickx (b. 1945) This former top racing driver achieved 25 podium finishes in Formula One and six wins in the 24 hours of Le Mans.
Never to be confused with the similar term ‘Ickies’, being all manner and denomination of those awful foreign coins.


Gerardus Mercator (1512 – 1594) Those who care to ‘chart’ his career will discover that he is immortalised for the Mercator projection world maps so named after him.
The subsequent age of SAT-NAV and the Tom-Tom drummed out and diminished his contribution.

Hercule Poirot. Some still insist that he was a mere figment of Agatha Christie’s (1890-1976) imagination.
However, he was definitely that Belgian detective who solved dozens of murders. He first appeared in print at “The Mysterious Affair at Styles, in 1920. As he now often appears on TV (as a Suchet look-alike) and in full in colour, he must be true. BTW He was NOT the clown or a puppet bearing a similar name.

Georges Joseph Christian Simenon (1903 – 1989) Simenon is best known for the creation of the fictional detective Maigret.
As Belgium is always a law-abiding nation our ‘Maggot’ had to move away and even learned French. Then he plied his sleuthing trade in the sink city of Gay Paree. (Wherever that is.) What is not known is exactly how many whores & gays he collared by the arrondissements.
Often known to smoke old stogies; and sometimes even ‘Blue Nun’; which was at that time imported and cured by this next famous Belgique:



Jeannne Deckers (1933-1985) Know all over the world as 'The Singing Nun' for her massive hit "Dominique", which reached number 1 & sold more than 1.5 million copies circa 1963. No one could hold a candle to her in her day. But if ‘Soeur Sourire’ is no longer available on your local windee-upee Juke Box then her delightful and catchy 1963 Chart-Topper can still be heard here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CIWmO7W0gc&feature=related


Jean-Claude Van Damme (born 1960) The Muscles from Brussels.
Starred in martial arts and action movies, the most successful being Timecop and Universal Soldier. (Still a role model for many a budding bootie; with potential muscle-fibre but nil moral-fibre). Yet to be fully recognised as the celebrated gay icon in Kidderminster and its immediate environs.

Adolphe Sax (1814 – 1894) He was a Belgian musical instrument designer and musician (clarinettist but often ‘alf-pist, too).
Best known for inventing the Saxophone.

His lecherous but balding father had to change their family name from ‘Sex’ because the potential mother-in-law stated that: ‘We don’t want any of that malarkey here – this is Belgium, dontcha know, the very idea!’.


Pieter Brueghel (1525-69) Usually known as ‘Pieter Brueghel the Elder’ to distinguish him from his elder son.
He was the first in a large family of Flemish painters. His landscapes and scenes of peasant life stress the absurd and vulgar, yet are full of zest and fine detail. Invariably many wintery reproductions reappear on charity shop Christmas cards about this time each year, look out for those carefully posed but deep-frozen codpieces:

ie His ‘Winter Landscape with Skaters and Bird Trap, 1565’
http://images.google.com/imgres?img...E-SearchBox&rlz=1I7GPEA_en&sa=N&start=90&um=1

Mons. S. Prout. More affectionately known as ‘Brussels’, (Birth/Death - dates unknown) The World Famous uphill Gardener who originally cultivated and named these ‘mini-cabbages-on-a-stick’.
Within the UK, but only after being cruelly exposed to Jackie Frost, they appear as a culinary aberration at Christmas time. Notable exceptions to this indulgent tradition have included one certain Captain RN ****-**** (PerSec) together with his obedient Ships Co. The lessons of the Nore & Invergordon have indeed been well-remembered…..
Recently released records have shown that one unexpected side-effect of indulging in this sensational discovery places it among the cheaper fore-runners of Phosgene and Chlorine gases. Being just a seasonal item, however, that lethal quality was never fully developed. Yet some Researchers still believe that ‘Fair play, Referee!’ was the deciding factor and so unofficial trials continue to this day.
During the ‘Swinging Sixties’ a special edition sports car should have been rolled out to commemorate this early & unique ‘green’ item. In the event the engraving company involved in that exercise made a huge faux pas and so that marquee was finally launched as ‘ The British Leyland Austin-Healy SPRITE’ instead.

BTW - That engraving company is now encompassed within the MOD (Medals/Plaques Dept.)



So, with these particular and peculiar worthies in mind, let us all treat these Belgiques with far more respect and a little less of our natural anglo-saxon superiority; and never mention the war – any war…. They don’t do War.
 

Troglodyte

Lantern Swinger
#19
BreathingOutOnTheWayUp said:
Blackrat said:
Can anyone name ten (real) famous Belgians apart from Audrey Hepburn & Herge?
Aerts, Jean, cyclist
Albert I, King of Belgium from 1909 to 1934
Albert II, King of Belgium since August 1993
Arfeuille, Walter, Guinness Record - lifted 281.5kg a distance of 17cm off the ground with his teeth in 1990
Baekeland, Leo Hendrik, inventor of the synthetic resin known as "bakelite"
Becue, Brigitte, swimmer
Beernaert, Auguste, winner of the 1909 Nobel Peace Prize and prime minister of Belgium (1884-1894)
Bègue, Lambert le, first priest to organise communities of Beguines
Bekaert, Leo Leander, founder of Bekaert N.V.
Benoit, Peter, composer and founder of the Royal Flemish Conservatory
Berghmans, Ingrid, judo champion
Bertrand, Plastic, punk/rock singer of 'Ca Plane Pour Moi' fame
Binchois, Gilles, 15th century composer
Bolland, Jean, Flemish Jesuit and hagiographer
Bologne, Jean, Flemish sculptor
Bordet, Jules, bacteriologist who developed vaccine for whooping cough
Bosman, Jean-Marc, footballer who changed the transfer rules
Boudewijn, King of Belgium from 1951 to 1993
Bourignon, Antoinette, mystic and advocate of quietism
Boutsen, Thiery, Formula 1 driver
Brel, Jacques, legendary chansonnier / singer
Brouwer, Adriaen, painter
Bruegel the Elder, Pieter, painter
Cammaerts, Emile Leon, poet
Campin, Robert, painter
Ceulemans, Jan, international football player
Ceulemans, Raymond, 17-times Word Champion billiard player
Claes, Ernest, novelist and short-story writer
Claes, Willy, ex-NATO Secretary General
Claiborne, Liz, fashion designer
Claude, Albert, biochemist who was the first to isolate a cancer cell
Claus, Hugo, poet, dramatist, novelist and film writer
Clijsters, Kim, world-class tennis player
Coninx, Stijn, director of "Daens" (nominated for an Oscar® in 1992)
Conscience, Hendrik, novelist and short-story writer who "taught the people how to read"
Coopman, Jean-Pierre, the only Belgian boxer ever to fight the great Mohammed Ali
Cooreman, Gerhard, prime minister of Belgium (1918)
Cortázar, Julio, writer
Cuisenaire, Georges, Belgian teacher famous for his method of teaching mathematics
Culliford, Pierre, alias "Peyo", the creator of "The Smurfs"
Damien, Father (Pater Damiaan), missionary on the leper island of Molokai, Hawaii
David, Gerard, Flemish painter
Davidse, Bob, TV presenter ("Nonkel Bob" from "Tip Top")
d'Alviella, Count Goblet, prime minister of Belgium (1831, 1832-34)
d'Anethan, Jules Joseph, prime minister of Belgium (1870-71)
De Bériot, Charles, violinist
De Broqueville, Charles, prime minister of Belgium (1911-18, 1932-34)
De Brouckere, Henri, prime minister of Belgium (1852-55)
De Burlet, Jules, prime minister of Belgium (1894-96)
Deckers, Jeanne (Soeur Sourire), who had a number one hit in the US with 'Dominique'
De Clercq, Guy, water skier
De Decker, Pierre, prime minister of Belgium (1855-57)
De Duve, Christian, winner of the 1974 Nobel Prize for Physiology and discoverer of lysosomes and peixosomes
De Ghelderode, Michel, dramatist
Dehaene, Jean-Luc, Prime Minister of Belgium (1992-99)
De Muelenare, Felix Amand, prime minister of Belgium (1831-32)
De Rore, Cyprien, Belgian composer who produced the first score for voices
De Sauvage, Count, prime minister of Belgium (1831)
De Smedt, Edward, chemist and inventor of modern-day road asphalt
De Smet, Pierre Jean, missionary
De Smet de Nayer, Paul, prime minister of Belgium (1896-1907)
De Theux, Bartholemy Theodore, prime minister of Belgium (1834-40, 1846-47)
De Trooz, Jules, prime minister of Belgium (1907-08)
De Vlaeminck, Eric, cyclo-cross champion
De Vlaeminck, Roger, cyclist
De Vriendt, Cornelis Floris, designer of Antwerp Town Hall
De Wiart, Henri Carton, prime minister of Belgium (1920-21)
De Wilde, Etienne, track cyclist (Silver medal at Sydney 2000)
Des Prez, Josquin, composer
Deburghgraeve, Fred, 100m Breaststroke Gold medal winner at Atlanta 96 and ex-World Record holder
Delacroix, Leon, prime minister of Belgium (1918-20)
Delstanche, Charles, pioneer in otology
Delvaux, Paul, surrealist painter
Demeulemeester, Ann, fashion designer
Denijn, Jef, campanology expert
Duvieusart, Jean Pierre, prime minister of Belgium (1950)
Egmont, Lamoral, general and statesman
Ensor, James Sidney, painter
Eyskens, Gaston, prime minister of Belgium (1949-50, 1958-61, 1968-72)
Eyskens, Marc, prime minister of Belgium (1981)
Ferdi, Will, singer and first Belgian personality to announce he was gay (real name Werner Ferdinande)
Franck, César Auguste, composer and organist
Franquin, Andre, creator of the "Guust Flater" and "Marsupilami" comic series
Frere-Orban, H J Walthere, prime minister of Belgium (1857-70, 1878-84)
Frimout, Dirk, the first Belgian astronaut to enter space
Fyt, Jan, painter and etcher
Geboers, Eric, moto-cross rider
Gerlache, Adrien de, commander of the first scientific Antarctic expedition
Geulincx, Arnold, Flemish philosopher
Gezelle, Guido, Roman Catholic priest, teacher and poet
Gilmore, Matthew, track cyclist (Silver medal at Sydney 2000)
Godefroid, Sebastien, great sailor and Silver medallist in the Finn class sailing event at Atlanta 96
Goethals, Raymond, trainer of the Belgian National Football Team for 10 years
Goossens, Cas, ex-Managing Director of the BRTN and Chairman of Eurosport
Gramme, Zénobe, inventor of the Gramme dynamo
Grétry, André, composer
Grumiaux, Arthur, eminent violinist
Harmel, Pierre, prime minister of Belgium (1965-66)
Hellebuyck, Eddy, 100m sprinter and finalist at Atlanta 96
Hennepin, Louis, first European to explore the upper Mississippi river
Henin, Justine, world-class tennis player
Hepburn, Audrey, actress and special ambassador to UNICEF
Herge, the creator of "Tin Tin" (Kuifje) - his real name is Georges Remi
Heylen, Ivan, Flemish singer
Heymans, Corneille, winner of the 1938 Nobel Prize for Physiology
Horta, Victor, Art Nouveau architect
Huysmans, Camille, prime minister of Belgium (1946-47)
Ickx, Jacky, Formula 1 racing driver
Jacobs, Victor, prime minister of Belgium (1884)
Jansen, Cornelis, Flemish theologian who founded the Jansenism movement
Janson, Paul Emile, prime minister of Belgium (1937-38)
Jaspar, Henri, prime minister of Belgium (1926-31)
Jobe, Georges, moto-cross rider
Jordaens, Jacob, painter
Joseph, Albert, prime minister of Belgium (1831, 1832-34)
Joseph, Etienne Noel, prime minister of Belgium (1831)
Kim, Sandra, youngest ever winner of the Eurovision Song Contest
Klein, Dani, lead singer of Belgium's most successful band "Vaya Con Dios" (sold 10 million CD's)
La Fontaine, Henri, winner of the 1913 Nobel Peace Prize
Lambrechts, Esther, singer better known as "La Esterella"
Lasso, Orlando di, composer
Lateau, Louise, Belgian lady who experienced "stigmata"
Lebeau, Joseph, prime minister of Belgium (1832-34, 1840-41)
Leburton, Edmond, prime minister of Belgium (1973-74)
Lefevre, Theodore, prime minister of Belgium (1961-65)
Lemaître, Georges, astronomer who discovered the Big Bang theory
Lemonnier, Camille, novelist and founder of the Belgian literary renaissance
Lenoir, Jean Joseph Etienne, inventor of the internal-combustion engine
Leopold I, King of Belgium from 1831 to 1865
Leopold II, King of Belgium from 1865 to 1909
Leopold III, King of Belgium from 1934 to 1951
Loiseau, Constant, inventor of the optometer
Lomba, Marie-Isabelle, great judoka and Bronze medallist at Atlanta 96
Lotti, Helmut, international pop singer
Maertens, Freddy, cyclist
Maeterlinck, Maurice, author
Magritte, Rene, painter and theorist of surrealism
Mallise, Xavier, world-class tennis player
Malou, Jules, prime minister of Belgium (1846-47, 1874-78, 1884)
Martens, Wilfried, prime minister of Belgium (1979-92)
Massis, John, the man with the strongest teeth in the world
Matsys, Quentin, Flemish painter who founded the Antwerp school
Meirhaege, Filip, mountain biker (Silver medal at Sydney 2000)
Mercator, Gerardus, cartographer, mathematician and geographer
Merckx, Eddy, cyclist and 5-time winner of the Tour de France
Nothomb, Jean-Baptiste, prime minister of Belgium (1841-45)
Ockeghem, Johannes, Flemish composer
Ortelius, Abraham, Flemish geographer who produced the first modern atlas
Peeters, Bart, radio and TV presenter
Pfaff, Jean-Marie, international goal keeper
Philips, Luk, brilliant actor ("Pastoor Munte" and "Bompa")
Pholien, Joseph, prime minister of Belgium (1950-52)
Pien, Armand, Belgian weather man for more than 35 years
Pierlot, Hubert, prime minister of Belgium (1939-45)
Pire, Dominique, winner of the 1958 Nobel Peace Prize
Pirenne, Henri, historian, well-known for his Pirenne Thesis
Planckaert, Eddy, cyclist
Plantin, Christophe, bookbinder and typography expert
Plateau, Joseph, inventor of the stroboscope
Poirot, Hercule, Belgian detective
Poullet, Prosper, prime minister of Belgium (1925-26)
Prigogine, Ilya, chemical physicist famous for his theoretical framework on the origin of life
Puttemans, Emiel, long-distance runner
Quetelet, Lambert Adolphe, mathematician and inventor of the Body Mass Index
Rakels, Heidi, judoka (Bronze medal at the Barcelona Olympics in 1992)
Reinhardt, Jean Baptiste "Django", inventor of the two-finger guitar playing technique
Remi, Georges, better known as Hergé, the creator of "Tin Tin" (Kuifje)
Renkin, Jules, prime minister of Belgium (1931-32)
Reynders, Yvonne, cyclist
Robert, Joel, moto-cross rider
Rodenbach, Albrecht, poet
Rodenbach, Georges, poet and novelist
Roelands, Gaston, long-distance runner
Rogge, Jacques, President of the IOC (International Olympic Committee)
Rogier, Charles Latour, prime minister of Belgium (1832-34, 1847-52, 1857-68)
Rolin-Jaequemyns, Gustave, who co-founded the Institute of International Law in Ghent in 1873
Röpcke, Jo, respected film critic - nobody in Belgium has seen more films than him
Rouffaer, Senne, actor who is better known as "Kapitein Zeppos" (Captain Zeppos)
Rousseau, Vincent, marathon runner
Rubens, Peter Paul, painter
Rysbrack, John Michael, sculptor
Saive, Jean-Michel, table-tennis player
Sarton, May Eleanor, poet and novelist
Sax, Adolphe, inventor of the saxophone
Scherens, Jef, cyclist
Schoepen, Bobbejaan, Flemish singer and ex-owner of "Bobbejaanland" (real name Modest Schoepen)
Schollaert, Frans, prime minister of Belgium (1908-11)
Schotte, Briek, cyclist
Schueremans, Herman, organiser of the annual Torhout-Werchter Rock Festival
Scifo, Enzo, international football player
Sercu, Patrick, cyclist
Simenon, Georges, writer
Simons, Ann, judoka (Bronze medal at Sydney 2000)
Singing Nun, The (Soeur Sourire), who had a number one hit in the US with 'Dominique'
Snyders, Frans, painter
Solvay, Ernest, inventor of the Solvay process (ammonia)
Spaak, Paul Henri, founder of the Benelux and prime minister of Belgium (1938-39, 1946, 1947-49)
Stevens, Patrick, Belgium's best 100m sprinter
Stevin, Simon, mathematician and engineer
Streuvels, Stijn, novelist
Teirlinck, Herman, novelist and playwright
Teniers the Younger, David, painter and engraver
Theunis, George, prime minister of Belgium (1921-25, 1934-35)
Thielemans, Toots, world-famous jazz musician
Thijs, Philippe, cyclist
Thys, Guy, coach of the Belgian National Football Team for 15 years
Tilly, Johann Tserclaes, field marshall
Timmermans, Felix, author
Tindemans, Leo, prime minister of Belgium (1974-78)
Tin Tin, created by Herge (Georges Remi)
Tura, Will, Flemish singer (real name Arthur Blanckaert)
Urbanus, Belgium's funniest comedian (real name Urbain Servranckx)
Van Acker, Achiel, prime minister of Belgium (1945-46, 1954-58)
Van Artevelde, Jacob, statesman and political leader
Van Barneveld, Harry, great judoka and Bronze medallist at Atlanta 96
Van Beirendonck, Walter, fashion designer
Van Damme, Ivo, athleet
Van Damme, Jean-Claude, action-film hero
Van Depoele, Charles, inventor of the electric railway
Van Donck, Flory, golf player
Van Dyck, Anton, painter
Van Ghent, Joos, Flemish painter
Van Ginderen, Terry, TV presenter ("Tante Terry" from "Tip Top")
Van Helmont, Jan Baptista, physician / chemist who showed that plants feed mostly on water, not soil
Van Himst, Paul, international football player and coach
Van Hool, Bernard, founder of international coachbuilder Van Hool NV
Van Houtte, Jean, prime minister of Belgium (1952-54)
Van Humbeeck, Pierre Edouard, prime minister of Belgium (1878-84)
Van Looy, Rik, cyclist
Van Miert, Karel, ex-European Commissioner for Competition (EEC)
Van Moer, Wilfried, international football player
Van Noten, Dries, fashion designer
Van Ostayen, Paul, Flemish poet
Van Rompaey, Jan, TV journalist
Van Roost, Dominique, tennis player
Van Ruysbroeck, Jan, mystic beatified by Pope Pius X
Van Steenbergen, Rik, cyclist
Van Zeeland, Paul, prime minister of Belgium (1935-37)
Van de Velde, Henri Clemens, Art Nouveau architect
Van de Vyvere, Alois, prime minister of Belgium (1925)
Van de Weyer, Jean-Sylvain, prime minister of Belgium (1845-46)
Van de Woestijne, Karel, poet
Vandecaveye, Gella, great judoka (Silver medal at Atlanta 1996 and Bronze medal at Sydney 2000)
Vandenpeerebom, Jules, prime minister of Belgium (1899)
Vanden Boeynants, Paul, prime minister of Belgium (1966-68, 1978)
Vandevelde, Luc, ex-Chairman of Marks and Spencer
Vanthilt, Marcel, ex-VJ on MTV and leadsinger of the band "Arbeid Adelt"
Van der Goes, Hugo, Flemish painter
Van der Groen, Dora, actress best known for her role in "De Heren van Zichem" (The Men from Zichem)
Van der Weyden, Rogier, painter
Van het Groenewoud, Raymond, singer
Verhaeren, Emile, Flemish poet
Verhofstadt, Guy, prime minister of Belgium (1999-2007)
Vermeiren, Paul, archer
Vesalius, Andreas, famous anatomist and physician
Vieuxtemps, Henri, violinist and composer
Wally, Eddy, world-famous Flemish singer also known as "The Voice of Europe"
Werbrouck, Ulla, great judoka and Gold medallist at Atlanta 96
Woeste, Charles, prime minister of Belgium (1884)
Wauters, Koen, leadsinger of the popular band "Clouseau"
Yourcenar, Marguerite, novelist
Ysaýe, Eugène, violinist, conductor and composer
Zimmer, Louis, world-famous clockmaker


Soporific or what?
:twisted:
Well yes, but are they in fact FAMOUS?? :?
 
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sussex2 said:
Passed-over_Loggie said:
TimeToJoinUp. y can be a minority in something bigger and more abstract.


BreathingOutOnTheWayUp. Apart from them?
Ah but the union between Scotland and England (the Welsh don't count) is exactly that, a union, not a takeover. The Scots entered into it willingly and presumably with full knowledge of what they might mean.
Should they become independent they will then have to decide amongst other things:
Which countries or unions they wish to ally themselves with.
To decide which currency to adopt and how to defend themselves.
In fact how to support themselves at all.
Simples! It ain't going to be.
Edited because of crap spelling.

Ah but it's never quite as simple as the Welsh, English and Scots...nor us and them...
 
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