The Aussies have it Right !!

Exile

Midshipman
BT

HORRAY FOR THE "AUSSIES". I HAVE A IMPROVED OPINION OF THEM. CAN THEY
COME
TALK TO OUR JUDGES, PARLIAMENT, ETC?

Muslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law were told on
Wednesday to get out of Australia, as the government targeted radicals in a bid to head off potential terror attacks.

A day after a group of mainstream Muslim leaders pledged loyalty to
Australia and her Queen at a special meeting with Prime Minister John
Howard, he and his Ministers made it clear that extremists would face a
crackdown. Treasurer Peter Costello, seen as heir apparen't to Howard,
hinted that some radical clerics could be asked to leave the country if
they did not accept that Australia was a secular state, and its laws
were made by parliament. "If those are not your values, if you want a
country which has Sharia law or a theocratic state, then Australia is not for
you", he said on National Television.

"I'd be saying to clerics who are teaching that there are two laws
governing people in Australia: one the Australian law and another the
Islamic law, that is false. If you can't agree with parliamentary law,
independent courts, democracy, and would prefer Sharia law and have the
opportunity to go to another country, which practices it, perhaps,
then, that's a better option", Costello said.

Asked whether he meant radical clerics would be forced to leave, he
said those with dual citizenship could possibly be asked to move to the
other country. Education Minister Brendan Nelson later told reporters that
Muslims who did not want to accept local values should "clear off.
Basically people who don't want to be Australians, and who don't want,
to live by Australian values and understand them, well then, they can
basically clear off", he said.

Separately, Howard angered some Australian Muslims on Wednesday by
saying he supported spy agencies monitoring the nation's mosques Quote:
"IMMIGRANTS, NOT AUSTRALIANS, MUST ADAPT. Take It Or Leave It. I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are offending some individual or their culture. Since the terrorist attacks on Bali, we have experienced a surge in patriotism by the majority of Australians."

"However, the dust from the attacks had barely settled when the
'politically correct' crowd began complaining about the possibility
that our patriotism was offending others. I am not against immigration, nor
do I hold a grudge against anyone who is seeking a better life by coming
to Australia." " However, there are a few things that those who have
recently come to our country, and apparently some born here, need to
understand."
"This idea of Australia being a multicultural community has served only
to dilute our sovereignty and our national identity. And as Australians,
we have our own culture, our own society, our own language
and our own lifestyle."

"This culture has been developed over two centuries of struggles,
trials and victories by millions of men and women who have sought freedom"
"We speak mainly ENGLISH, not Spanish, Lebanese, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to become part of our society .. Learn the language!"

"Most Australians believe in God. This is not so me Christian, right
wing, political push, but a fact, because Christian men and women, on
Christian principles, founded this nation, and this is clearly documentedy it on the walls of our schools. If God offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as your new home, because God is part of our culture."

"We will accept your beliefs, and will not question why. All we ask is
that you accept ours, and live in harmony and peaceful enjoyment with
us."
"If the Southern Cross offends you, or you don't like "A Fair Go", then
you should seriously consider a move to another part of this planet. We
are happy with our culture and have no desire to change, and we really
don't care how you did things where you came from. By all means, keep your
culture, but do not force it on others.

"This is OUR COUNTRY, OUR LAND, and OUR LIFESTYLE, and we will allow you every opportunity to enjoy all this. But once you are done
complaining, whining, and griping about Our Flag, Our Pledge, Our Christian beliefs, or Our Way of Life, I highly encourage you take advantage of one other great Australian freedom, 'THE RIGHT TO LEAVE'."

"If you aren't happy here then LEAVE. We didn't force you to come
here. You asked to be here. So accept the country YOU accepted."

Maybe if we circulate this amongst ourselves, Canadian citizens will
find the backbone to start speaking and voicing the same truths!

BT NNNN
 

slim

War Hero
This speaks volumes. I have no problems with any religion as long as I am left alone. I have no wish for the islamic or any ther reigious fundementalists to ride roughshod over the indiginous population in an attempt to impose their religion on us. Britain is a democratic country and as such allows all religions fredom. Over the years immigration has soared, it must be remembered the only reasons for so many coming to Britain is our freedom and culture (and in some cases the benefit system).
Australia has got it 100% correct, we should follow the example and Tony Blair should make a statementin a similar vein.
 

WarMonger

War Hero
This does nothing more than reinforce my belief that the time to emigrate from this cess pool is drawing ever closer!!
 

WarMonger

War Hero
They say that this countries involvement in a major conflict has rotated on an approx 10 year cycle since the second world war....

I didnt look up the exact dates for Korea, Aden, Malaya etc etc etc..!!

but more recently

Falklands early 80's
Gulf War I early 90's
Gulf War II early 2000's

Does anyone think that 10 years from now we could be fighting a civil war on our doorstep ..!!
 
One small modification I would make mate...

AUSTRALIANS NOT ABORIGINIES MUST ADAPT.

“ I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are offending some individual or their culture. Since the terrorist attacks on Bali, we have experienced a surge in patriotism by the majority of Australians.

However, the dust from the attacks had barely settled when the “politically correct†crowd began complaining about the possibility that our patriotism was offending others. I am not against immigration nor do I hold a grudge against anyone who is seeking a better life by coming to Australia. However there are a few things that those who have recently come to our country, and apparently some born here, need to understand. This idea of Australia being a multicultural community has served only to dilute our sovereignty and our national identity.

As Australians, we have our own culture, our own society, our own language and our own lifestyle. This culture has been developed over a millenia by the indiginous ABORIGINAL population, the real Australians!

We DON'T speak English, not Spanish, Lebanese, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or any other language. Therefore if you wish to become part of our society, learn the ABORIGINAL language!!

“In God We Trust†is the colonizers Motto. This is historically a Christian theopolitical slogan. The occupiers of our conutry adopted this motto because Christian men and women, on Christian principles invaded and occupied this nation, and this is clearly documented.

It is certainly NOT appropriate to display it on the walls of our schools. If OUR ABORIGINAL BELIEFS offend you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as your new home, because these beliefs is part of our culture.

We are happy with our culture and have no desire to change, and we really don’t care how you did things where you came from.

This is OUR COUNTRY,OUR LAND, and OUR LIFESTYLE, and we will allow you every opportunity to enjoy this. But once you are done complaining, whining and griping, about OUR FLAG, OUR PLEDGE, OUR NATIONAL MOTTO or OUR WAY OF LIFE.

I highly encourage you to take advantage of one other great ABORIGINAL freedom.

THE RIGHT TO LEAVE!
 

come_the_day

Lantern Swinger
slim said:
......indiginous population in an attempt to impose their religion on us. Britain is a democratic country and as such allows all religions fredom. Over the years immigration has soared, it must be remembered the only reasons for so many coming to Britain is our freedom and culture (and in some cases the benefit system)..
I would argue that it must be remembered that the main reason for immigration to the UK was the opportunity to work and earn money in areas of employment in which the lazy indigenous population did not wish to be employed. The sanctimonious spouting of some of the posts in this and similar threads is a joke. When I was a kid and doing the carol-singing rounds in a small Oxfordshire town, the only houses that we were welcomed into were those of the Moslems who had come from Pakistan to work in our local foundry. We were offered food and hospitality that would shame the so-called Christians who wouldn't even open their doors to us, despite the fact that we were a "Christian" church group collecting for charity.

Get rid of the Moslems - the majority of whom are thoroughly decent, law-abiding, respectful and generous people? Give me strength. Get rid of the grabbing, workshy, benefit-dependant Brits by all means, but give credit where it's due, the immigrant Moslem population can teach us so much about hard work, social responsibility, about how to look after our older family without shoving them in a home while we wait for them to leave their worldly goods to us so that we don't have to work. Granted, the New Labour government has largely rid us of that possibility, but it was going that way under the Tories.

Let's get some perspective here. It's very interesting that some of the most barbed comment from contributors has come from people who either don't, or don't wish to, live in the UK anymore!
 
AaC you have obviously never been to Oz or know very much about the Australian aboriginals .


If the immigrant convicts had reverted to the Abo ways of life --??????



Apart from that the message you seem to be saying is that now the modern Australians have a strong economy etc etc the ABO's would like their homeland back


Please engage brain before opening mouth.
 
come_the_day said:
It's very interesting that some of the most barbed comment from contributors has come from people who either don't, or don't wish to, live in the UK anymore!
And why do you think that is? :idea:
 

slim

War Hero
come_the_day said:
slim said:
......indiginous population in an attempt to impose their religion on us. Britain is a democratic country and as such allows all religions fredom. Over the years immigration has soared, it must be remembered the only reasons for so many coming to Britain is our freedom and culture (and in some cases the benefit system)..
I would argue that it must be remembered that the main reason for immigration to the UK was the opportunity to work and earn money in areas of employment in which the lazy indigenous population did not wish to be employed. The sanctimonious spouting of some of the posts in this and similar threads is a joke. When I was a kid and doing the carol-singing rounds in a small Oxfordshire town, the only houses that we were welcomed into were those of the Moslems who had come from Pakistan to work in our local foundry. We were offered food and hospitality that would shame the so-called Christians who wouldn't even open their doors to us, despite the fact that we were a "Christian" church group collecting for charity.

Get rid of the Moslems - the majority of whom are thoroughly decent, law-abiding, respectful and generous people? Give me strength. Get rid of the grabbing, workshy, benefit-dependant Brits by all means, but give credit where it's due, the immigrant Moslem population can teach us so much about hard work, social responsibility, about how to look after our older family without shoving them in a home while we wait for them to leave their worldly goods to us so that we don't have to work. Granted, the New Labour government has largely rid us of that possibility, but it was going that way under the Tories.

Let's get some perspective here. It's very interesting that some of the most barbed comment from contributors has come from people who either don't, or don't wish to, live in the UK anymore!
The case for idle UK born scroungers is not disputed. Hoewever I did not say get rid of the Muslims. I said that they are fee to carry on their religion but did not wish them to impose it on me.
Perhaps you would like to start a thread on Benefit scroungers believe me I have very definite views on them (of any nationality).
 
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