I would reconsider your opinions matey if you knew what some of the ex-booties who frequent this site had in the way of quals/skills. Might also want to check out a bloke called Alan Hinkes. He's climbed the worlds 14 highest mountains sometimes with just one sherpa, sometimes alone. oh and he's a Royal Marines Reservist!!
Too right!! I got my degree at 38 (well after I left the corps) and am currently looking at Masters options! The Corps has always looked to develop the 'Thinking man's soldier'! Looks like someone got confused between Royal and the paras??
i think H robb was absolutely right when he said about not wanting to pass blokes out to make up the numbers, that he would only pass out lads who were up to the standard as they would probably be working alongside his oppos in the future. the current standard of blokes we are recieving at 45 at the mo is dogshit, i think more training teams would be well to think along his mentality
Would it surprise you to learn that there are probably more fails at PRMC than before & if anything the standards of selection are more rigorous than before? I would accept that there may have been a slackening of standards at PRMC which inevitably led to more fails during Recruit Training. I firmly believe this is no longer the case since the 3 mile run was moved to Day 1 of PRMC & weeded out the ill-prepared from the outset.
Of course that's an inconceivable notion to most as it was always harder in the past than it is now.
The standard of recruits received at commando units is no different, the only difference at unit level, using your comments as a yardstick is the apparent lack of appreciation that the training is ongoing as it was when you joined your first unit.
In years gone by it was certainly less common to complete Recruit Training and be deployed operationally immediately afterwards, as it now appears to be more often the case.
good point N_S, but i'm more referring to the attitude of the new joiners rather than their technical ability. You wouldnt have said boo to a goose when you passed out, yet the new joiners of late are very much of the mentality of 'you can't touch me/tell me what to do or i'll get you done for bullying' they seem to forget we're not the boy scouts, and this isn't primary school.
Have to admit that I've come across examples of "attitude" very early in the selection process.
Possibly schooling & parenting is partially attributable as children are encouraged to ask "why" rather than just "do without question".
I'm not sure what the answer is, but I can certainly understand why this would be a problem at unit level. The other issue is we also have to try and encourage them not to leave, so it's a bit of a compromise we end up with.