Terrorism: are we bringing it on ourselves?


War Hero
I am going to go out on a limb here and suggest that recent terrorist atrocities have been brought on by ourselves: that they are our fault. 9/11 for example was said to be Osama bin Laden's retaliation for American aggression in Libya. Hezbollah is attacking Israel thanks to Israel's decades-old military presence in Lebanon, and its kidnapping of Lebanese and Syrians over the years (see George Galloway's recent Sky News interview). The USA is pointing the finger at Iran saying they are developing nuclear weapons (I don't think they are), which no doubt pisses them off and will result in further Asian hostility towards the West. The London tube bombings were undoubtedly a reaction to British presence in Afganistan (where a strict Sharia law was held - so it wasn't perfect in the eyes of westerners but it did keep the peace, and destroyed the opium crop). Ditto the Bali bombings.

Think of any terrorist atrocity and then think why it happened. I cannot think of any instance which has not been brought on by western provocation.

I propose that we keep ourselves to ourselves in this country and the terrorists will do the same, ie leave us alone. You never see a major country like China being attacked by terrorists do you?, guess why that is - because they don't interfere in middle eastern affairs.

Light blue touch paper and retire...


Lantern Swinger
dunkers said:
You never see a major country like China being attacked by terrorists do you?

And exactly how reliable is all of the information that comes out of countries like China? For all we know they could be waging their own war on terror except that they would probably be more cloak and dagger about and would let their media know the consequences of any leaks.


You never hear of it in places like China because they would'nt pussy foot around with the savages if & when caught , they'd top the lot of them no trouble at all , :twisted:


Lantern Swinger
And what if the Tibetans got the support that organisations like Hezbollah enjoy, it wopuld be China's Vietnam. The problem is that if you want to wield influence you are going to get up the nose of somebody sooner or later. And event the Nazis with the SS and Gestapo had their problems (not that I am saying that those that opposed the Nazis were terrorists, just that if somebody is motivated enought they will fight the powers that be no matter how powerful they may be).


War Hero
The problem is that we no longer have a deterrnt Police force on the beat,our boarder control is non existant and the Govt havent got the 1st idea of who is actually in the country let alone in our jails(or not as the case maybe).what a "promised land" the UK is,troll up on our door step and in short order youre living the life of riley at the taxpayers expense!We need to stop Immigration,then find out just exactly who we have in Uk and doing what,if they have no buisness being here and are just sponging off the state,ship them back!It might help if the EU were to fine France for letting illegals in to UK via the Tunnel.Maybe next years Census would be the ideal oppertunity?


dunkers said:
ohaire said:
i had a big big long post written, read it through and decided to cut it and say

no we don't, they bring the shit to us

On what provocation do they do so?

i dont know, but i liken it to a child jealous of another kids toy, he cant have it, so he breaks the kids toy

replace kids and toys with cultures and civilisation where necessary


War Hero
ok, here we go (again) :cry: there are hundreds of thousands of imigrants that are law abiding, very hard working citizens of this country and there are those who are genuine assilum seekers whose native government just wants them dead (for whatever reason). Great in you come. However, those "sponging" gits who are here primarily to live off our national health and wellfare system should be shipped back to thier last known port of origin......if the whole of Europe took that policy there would be no problem in the UK coz we are almost the last point contact before the US.

How we discriminate between genuine assilum seekers and the spongers that's above my pay grade, but surely some sort of entrance test possibly?You fail you go back to France(punishment enough possibly 8) )


or how about skills only? i heard they will be implementing something similar to EU migrants, ie polish, romanians

so do it to the asylum seekers, oh wait, they dont have schools, oh well


War Hero
First part, " I say again, bury the bastards in a pig skin" or at least whats left of them. When they have committed an atrocity in this country,not a martyrs grave in Pakistan, as happened.
Secondly, what happpened to the Dublin Accords that we signed? You know the one where we snd illegals back to the last safe country they passed through........................errr France, Belgium, Ireland (NTH & Sth)
I'm pissed off with it all, and I'm not a racist either before any liberals out there have a go at me.
RoofRat :evil:

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