Terms at BRNC & Observer grading & training thereafter

[Awaythrow]

Hi all,

Nothing that recent on this and some conflicting information to be found on the RN website.

Can anybody please confirm whether BRNC will be two 15 week terms (Militarisation & Marninisation) as opposed to three 10 week terms (Militarisation, Marinisation & Initial Fleet Time)?

I have posted the two conflicting sources below. For context, I am joining as an Aircrew Officer Observer, but I doubt that affects the answer in any way.

1) "Phase 1.1 Militarisation: This fifteen-week course gives you all the basics... Phase 2 Marinisation: A second fifteen-week course that enables you.... (only mentions initial 3 week Sea acquaint)

Royal Navy Officer Training | What to Expect

Officer training comprises two parts: Phase One - Basic Training and Phase 2 - Professional Training. Basic Training, also known as Initial Naval Training (Officer) (INT(O)), is conducted at Britannia Royal Naval College (BRNC), Dartmouth, and is a 30...

www.royalnavy.mod.uk

2) "in Dartmouth, where you’ll spend 30 weeks, focusing on: military skills, maritime skills and initial fleet time" https://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/careers/roles-and-specialisations/services/fleet-air-arm/observer

Also, if this post does happen to be noticed by anyone that can answer an additional (but somewhat less-pressing question) that would be most appreciated:

Please can anyone provide further information (or even a hyperlink) on Officer Observer grading post BRNC?
I understand grading will take place between BRNC & Professional Training at RNAS Culdrose, but would like to obtain much more info on the length, content and location of the grading.

Many thanks in advance,
AT

 

[WreckerL]

One for @pompeyexpat

 

[pompeyexpat]

Militarisation (term 1) is 14 weeks (New Entry OCs join in the second week of term), Marinisation (term 2) is 15 weeks and includes 6 weeks Initial Sea Training (IST).

I can’t answer the grading question because I don’t know or care what WAFU’s do; but if I remember I’ll ask a man I know will have the answer.

 

[Awaythrow]

Appreciate you both coming back to me on this. It's strange that the official RN website is wrong on both accounts.

I hope that my interviewer will not just be expecting me to recite what's on the web page word for word!

 

[pompeyexpat]

It's strange that the official RN website is wrong on both accounts.

Strange, no. Unfortunate or unprofessional maybe, but not strange.

 

[Awaythrow]

Out of curiosity - Do you have a source you can direct me to/somewhere I can quote for finding the above info?

I've been a long-time lurker so don't doubt your credibility or accuracy for a second, just If I am quizzed on where I learned a training pipeline differing from the RN Website's, I'd like to be able to mention a source other than "some helpful chap on Navy Net"!

 

[BreathingOutOnTheWayUp]

Appreciate you both coming back to me on this. It's strange that the official RN website is wrong on both accounts.

I hope that my interviewer will not just be expecting me to recite what's on the web page word for word!

Mmmm. @Awaythrow - Your quest to resolve the conflicting information discovered at the two Official sources referred to at your at Post #1 is understandably annoying.

Should your 'Interviewer' quiz you on the Training Pipeline you would do well to demonstrate your pre-interview preparation by trotting out those sources, their differences* and impress him further with the 'Unofficial' yet authoritative answer posted here by an experienced, credible Officer currently involved with the delivery of Young Officer's Training. PERSEC notwithstanding it would surprise me not if the two parties knew/knew of one another.

Now, what is strange is your bold revelation that "I am joining as an Aircrew Officer Observer..."[Post #1] followed by you needing advice in the highly likely event that your Interviewer will check your knowledge on the training undertaken along that route.

An Interview of that nature indicates a candidate approaching one of the early hurdles in a long and crowded field of similar applicants. If my reading of your situation is correct then 'twould be less strange had that bold revelation been more realistic. Being a confessed RR Lurker (BZ & Welcome BTW) I'm surprised that you'd not yet clocked that some folk here are inclined to, ermm, 'observe' and comment in their robust RR style . . . .:WINK:

All the best in your overall endeavours, but 'don't sweat the small stuff'.


*If you ever care to investigate the whole, fascinating aspect of RN Training, throughout 'precedented' and 'unprecedented' times. you would soon understand the rapidity of change in practice and ( if you are ever lucky or well-connected, the mysterious driving forces) the inevitable administrative time-lag for those playing the never-ending catch-up game.

 

[pompeyexpat]

Out of curiosity - Do you have a source you can direct me to/somewhere I can quote for finding the above info?

I've been a long-time lurker so don't doubt your credibility or accuracy for a second, just If I am quizzed on where I learned a training pipeline differing from the RN Website's, I'd like to be able to mention a source other than "some helpful chap on Navy Net"!

You're right to be sceptical of unverified information on the internet. The Publication that covers RN and RM Officer Training Regulations isn't open source; and I'm not going to tell you on a public forum exactly why I know what INT(O) consists of. You can of course tell the interviewer what you've read, but that someone has told you different - it's not a secret and there's nothing wrong with you asking questions on a forum like this.

But if I was going to quote the book I might say, for example; 'The core INT(O) package consists of one 14-week phase (Militarisation) and one 15-week phase (Marinisation including Initial Sea Time (IST) and a week for Pass Out.'