Rachel, I find some of your post objectionable from someone who isn't yet serving. I've been round Victory many times, taking family, friends, and once even, a large group of Chilean navy with me. I've never known anyone not to enjoy it, even if they were reluctant to go in the first place. I am by no means a spotter or "sweaty smarmy historian festering away in the staff room". We can always learn from the past, but this isn't about learning. I don't expect part 2 trainees to be able to regurgitate dates of battles or milestone changes to the service. I want them to realise what they are part of and buy into it. I want pride in their uniform and all that it stands for: hundreds of years of being the finest fighting force afloat. If that pride helps to install a little bit of responsibility or even a sense of "England expects", that can only be a good thing.