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sgtpepperband said:
Aah, but as Western Christians are we not taught to "turn the other cheek"? :?

Indeed but various forms of god botherer tend to be selective about the bits that are really important
 

sgtpepperband

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Maxi_77 said:
sgtpepperband said:
Aah, but as Western Christians are we not taught to "turn the other cheek"? :?

Indeed but various forms of god botherer tend to be selective about the bits that are really important

Proving that Fundamentalists - Christian AND Islamic - are manipulative sociopaths, regardless of which side of the faith fence they sit... 8O
 

Daktari

Banned
sgtpepperband said:
Maxi_77 said:
sgtpepperband said:
Aah, but as Western Christians are we not taught to "turn the other cheek"? :?

Indeed but various forms of god botherer tend to be selective about the bits that are really important

Proving that Fundamentalists - Christian AND Islamic - are manipulative sociopaths, regardless of which side of the faith fence they sit... 8O

Sgtpb I could'nt agree more. I personally dont believe in a Supeme Being - much to families disgust due to Grandfather being Methodist Minister ( All Hell Fire & Brimstone) and Cousin (AKA Holy Jo) being something big in York Minster .. but having digressed I think the scientific "Big Bang Theory" is more in like with reality. In fact as ar as the rag heads are concerned - the bigger bang the better!
 
sgtpepperband said:
Maxi_77 said:
sgtpepperband said:
Aah, but as Western Christians are we not taught to "turn the other cheek"? :?

Indeed but various forms of god botherer tend to be selective about the bits that are really important

Proving that Fundamentalists - Christian AND Islamic - are manipulative sociopaths, regardless of which side of the faith fence they sit... 8O

Quite so, but why leave out the Jews who can be pretty strange about things too.
 

sgtpepperband

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Maxi_77 said:
...Quite so, but why leave out the Jews who can be pretty strange about things too.

Well yes of course, but as this story was about the difference in cultural/religious values between a predominantly Christian Britain and a Muslim Sudan, I referred to those religions only...
 

Daktari

Banned
Maxi_77 said:
sgtpepperband said:
Maxi_77 said:
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Quite so, but why leave out the Jews who can be pretty strange about things too.

What I dont understand about the Jews is that they think the world is only 6000 yrs old and Day 1 was when the Old Testament Genisis was written. So if we take that as a starting point how do they explain carbon dated remains of early man and dinosaurs running around 60 million years ago. Perhaps God forgot he created that bit earlier! Yeah Right!
The question then is if all religions are fundmentally the same i.e. a form of social behaviour written down to separate the cilivalised from the un-civalised then basically its all a pack of lies and mumbo jumbo design to brainwash the massess making them easier to control - i.e. someone wahted to be head honcho and found a way to do it.
 

Karma

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Daktari said:
What I dont understand about the Jews is that they think the world is only 6000 yrs old and Day 1 was when the Old Testament Genisis was written. So if we take that as a starting point how do they explain carbon dated remains of early man and dinosaurs running around 60 million years ago. Perhaps God forgot he created that bit earlier! Yeah Right!

I'll confess that I don't know a great deal about Judaism and it's associated philosophy, but are you perhaps thinking of Bishop Ussher and his chronology?

The young earth creationists have come up with all kinds of contrived garbage to explain that.

The question then is if all religions are fundmentally the same i.e. a form of social behaviour written down to separate the cilivalised from the un-civalised then basically its all a pack of lies and mumbo jumbo design to brainwash the massess making them easier to control - i.e. someone wahted to be head honcho and found a way to do it.

It's all about politics and control. I'd agree that the structures around the philosophies are control mechanisms, but that doesn't detract from the philosophies themselves.
 
Religion was clearly a very necessary part of human development as it filled the gaps in mans knowledge and as such irtself has progressed over the years. The very reasons for it's inception are equally the causes of it's demise. Mans curiosity and need for explanations generated the need for myths to explain the unexplaiable, but equally that curiosity and thirst for knowledg has equally step by step removed the need for those myths as an explanation of life the universe and everything. As we develop as a species we need less faith and use more knowledge and logic in forming our societye and living our lives. Naturally religion became associated with power and as religion becomes less important religious leaders see their power decline and are fighting back, though how any of them can really justify the levels of violence they use ids beyond me.
 

BillyNoMates

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Mohammed the Teddy vs Taff the Swan.

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A Muslim man slaughtered a wild swan and tried to eat it because he was hungry during the fasting festival of Ramadan, a court heard. Shamshu Miah stabbed the bird and bit its neck at a boating lake in a popular tourist resort. Police found the 52-year-old with blood on his clothes and feathers in his beard when they were called to the West Shore boating pool in the seaside town of Llandudno, North Wales. They confronted Bangladeshi-born Miah, who told the police: "I am a Muslim, I am fasting, I had to eat. "I was hungry, I had to eat the swan. I killed it, I stabbed it. "I did nothing wrong, it was just a bird, I needed to eat." It is forbidden for Muslims to eat during daylight hours over the Islamic month of Ramadan. One of the officers told Miah it was illegal to kill a swan because it was the property of the Queen, to which Miah replied: "I hate the Queen, I hate this country." Police searched Miah, a married father-of-one, and discovered a bloodstained kitchen knife. But vets, who carried out a post-mortem on the animal, said it was unclear whether it had been attacked by the knife or Miah had bitten the swan's neck himself. Miah was jailed for two months after admitting possession of a knife in public and intentionally killing a wild bird. But District Judge Andrew Shaw allowed Miah to go free after hearing he had already spent 57 days in custody. He said: "You killed the swan, it was a cruel and reprehensible act. "I do not know exactly how the animal died, there is speculation you might have bitten it. 'It is a taboo action, the only sentence that is appropriate is a sentence of imprisonment." Llandudno Magistrates Court heard that shortly after midnight on September 25 this year - the second day of Ramadan - Miah was spotted acting suspiciously by the town's boating lake. Jim Neary, prosecuting, said local resident William Cuthbert witnessed what could only be described as "bizarre" behaviour from Miah. From his home opposite Mr Cuthbert saw Miah, a former restaurant owner who came to Britain from Bangladesh 40 years ago, rolling around on the grass with the swan's wing on the ground next to him. Using a pair of binoculars to get a closer look, Mr Cuthbert watched as Miah picked up a carrier bag and saw the head of the swan topple out. He telephoned police who discovered Miah wandering by the lake, with feathers in his beard and blood on his shirt, close to a pool of blood. They found the dead swan inside the carrier bag, with an injury to its neck, just below its beak. In interview, Miah admitted killing the bird because he was hungry as he was fasting during Ramadan, but denied he had done anything wrong. Elen Parry, defending, told the court that psychiatric reports indicated Miah was not mentally ill at the time of the attack.Ramadan, which this year fell between Sept 24 and October 23, is the ninth month of Islamic calendar. The festival celebrates the moment verses of the Koran were first revealed to the prophet Mohammed. During Ramadan Muslims are permitted to eat only after dark.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=418000&in_page_id=1770
 

hnhnwilliam

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Daktari said:
Maxi_77 said:
sgtpepperband said:
Maxi_77 said:
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Quite so, but why leave out the Jews who can be pretty strange about things too.

What I dont understand about the Jews is that they think the world is only 6000 yrs old and Day 1 was when the Old Testament Genisis was written. So if we take that as a starting point how do they explain carbon dated remains of early man and dinosaurs running around 60 million years ago.>>>>>>>>>

A Jewish friend explained to me; if you shop at Tesco's on a Monday to buy the ingredients to make a Christmas cake on the following weekend, how old is the cake you take out of the oven that you mixed six hours ago on the Saturday evening? How old were the ingredients?
The Earth he claims, was made from uncontrolled matter and materials floating around the universe and maybe included large chunks containing bits of dinosaurs.This is not Jewish canon but my friend Joshua's explaination. When Josh told me this hypothesise of his, while in my house I sugguested that we finish off the bottle of 12 year old whiskey we were sharing and depart and go to bed.
On a different note, has anyone on RR,maybe some teachers among you heard that the teaching of the Holocaust has been taken out of the school curriculum because it may offend the Muslims. sounds a bit Daily Mailish to me , but I would not be surprised
 
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