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  1. i dont know if anyone on here has been watching warship, but they have been reporting on 42 commando(i think) travelling to brunei(i think) for jungle training.

    anyway they had a scene with a marine ( someone with rank) possibly PTI. he had numerous tattoos, including a massive C on his neck, behind his ear.

    i just wondered, that he must have got it done once in the corps?

    surely he would get a right b0ll0cking?
  2. Ninja_Stoker

    Ninja_Stoker War Hero Moderator

    It depends when the tattoo was inflicted, the rules have changed more recently & those that joined with tattoos or were serving & had tattoos before the rule change can hardly be retrospectively bollocked.

    For the purists the following advice for those yet to join, the application guidance notes (AFCO Form 5 dated August 2009) state:

    The Recruiting Bible, (BR 3, Naval Personnel Management, dated May 2009,) states:

    The latest relevant Instruction Dated 10 Mar 2008, states:

  3. Uh-oh. If my AFCO and the medical examiner have seen my tattoo and haven't mentioned it, can I assume there's no problem with it or is there always the off-chance I could get booted out of Raleigh if the officers there don't like it?


    If anyone's interested.
  4. Ninja_Stoker

    Ninja_Stoker War Hero Moderator

    The irony is that in many cases, although a symbol maybe significant & well known to the person sporting the tattoo, it may well be the case that nobody else has a Scooby on the subject through ignorance or indifference or both.

    If it depicted something nasty about the Pope or said something in plain English, then maybe something may have been said.

    That said, an athiest tattoo is sure to draw long & 'interesting' theological discussions with ordained service personnel. Well done. :wink:
  5. Consider it covered up. I'll book an appoitment to get it done before my RNAC :oops:
  6. Ninja_Stoker

    Ninja_Stoker War Hero Moderator

    Seriously, for a pico-second:

    The Armed Forces neither recommend nor endorse the surgical removal of tattoos to individuals who have yet to join the service.

    Back to "normal" mode:

    If it wasn't picked-up by anyone & was recorded on the AFCO tattoo proforma, then that basically legitimises the tattoo.
  7. Wasn't going to get it removed, just covered up with a non-offensive tattoo. A butterfly perhaps!

    When you say "basically", does that mean I could get kicked out of training until A)It's gone or B)It's covered up?

    I don't want to have put in all that time and effort into the selection only to be told I can't start training because of a 1"x3" blob on my leg.
  8. Ninja_Stoker

    Ninja_Stoker War Hero Moderator

    Yep, after joining the following rules apply:

    Further Guidance on Tattoos

    Service personnel must project the Service in a positive light and not to bring the Service into disrepute. Like any other UK employer whose uniformed personnel are expected to maintain public confidence, the Service sets policy on the appearance in uniform of its men and women, and this includes the nature, extent and location of tattoos.

    Tattoos which are visible when No 1 uniform (RM Blues) is being worn, whether because they extend beyond the collar or cuff, or because they are being worn on the face, neck or hands, are not acceptable, are contrary to current regulations and must not be acquired. (Naval Officer and Senior Rate tropical No1 uniform do expose forearms and lower upper arms. Regulations permit the exposure of tattoos in these areas, provided they conform to the rules governing all tattoos wherever they may be.)

    Tattoos are not acceptable if they are judged by the Commanding Officer, or at the recruiting stage the Recruiting Officer, to be reasonably likely to:

    a. Undermine the authority or dignity of the Service or bring discredit to the Service.
    b. Offend others or invite provocation, for example because they are obscene, lewd, crude, racist, sexist, homophobic, or intimidating.
    c. Affect the employability of the wearer, for example by making it unacceptable for that person to parade or stand guard in public, or, depending on Branch/Specialisation and career profile, to engage on special operations.

    In addition, visible tattoos must not be garish or numerous or particularly prominent (which will depend on its size and location). Commanding Officers may order personnel with tattoos which contravene the provisions above, but which are not visible in No1 uniform, to cover them up.

    Service Personnel acquiring tattoos which contravene the Service policy will be invited to have their tattoos removed at their own expense. Acquisition of tattoos in contravention of the regulations and policy will result in disciplinary action and subsequent failure to remove tattoos is most likely to result in administrative discharge after an appropriate period on warning
  9. Zoid - Whilst I'm sure Ninja will be able to answer in a slightly more informed manner...

    Do you really think a Darwinist tattoo could be considered Anti-religious? That's tenuous at best. As far as I'm aware Macro / Micro evolution isn't really hot topic in any of the Christian denominations (stand by to be corrected though...) these days. Talk about looking for problems!

    Ninja - I have a rose with an arrow through it on my arm. Do you think I will offend any budding (ha ha) horticulturalists? And the arrow has blood drawn on the end of it - do you think this will be ok, what with the blood drive and the winter months looming?
  10. Ninja_Stoker

    Ninja_Stoker War Hero Moderator

    To be honest, if a tattoo is going to pose a problem the wearer is usually already aware of the possibility before they even step into an AFCO. The vast majority of tattoos are acceptable with regard location & content.
  11. One might suggest that all this angst is just a teensy bit self-absorbed.

    In the same way that anyone elses religious beliefs are their own affair, so are yours. If you want to make an issue of them, then that's up to you, but it won't be the tattoo that's the issue.
  12. Unless they were done by Pinky Yun they ain't worth a shite.
  13. I have a tattoo of a british bulldog with a union jack on my upper arm. Would this tattoo stop me from joining the navy?


  14. Ninja_Stoker

    Ninja_Stoker War Hero Moderator

    It's very "last year" to be honest, an Afghan Hound would be more "with-it" darling, but we'd probably let you in if you promise to keep up.
  15. No but it will stop people from talking to you for having such a chad tat.
  16. Yeah i know its a shit tattoo, i had it done wen i left school 7 years ago. Just one of those stupid things i did when i was younger. I am going to get it covered up soon, but i am applying shortly so was just wondering incase it stopped my application process
  17. wet_blobby

    wet_blobby War Hero Moderator

    My Brother had his blood group tattooed on his arm, as you do, funny thing was it was different from mine, my mothers and my fathers.

    Still, he was a Para.
  18. Ninja_Stoker

    Ninja_Stoker War Hero Moderator

    A mate of mine had a really naff "Homeward Bound" tattoo on his upper arm, with a picture of a matelot walking away with a kitbag on his shoulder. (Of course, we all realise this is physically impossible to lift a kitbag beyond the midriff, even when a practised snatch & grab powerlifter).

    Anyway, he got a bit "tipsy" in Gib & decided to get a peacock tattoo-ed over it, as you do. Last time I saw him, 20 years later, he still has the peacock wearing a matelots' cap on his arm.
  19. Gen dit.
    In Gib, I had my branch badge tatooed on my arm for a drunken bet with my Chief Radar. I was devastated the next morning when I remembered it.
    Thing is, I branch changed a year later. Threaders. Finally got it covered about 7 or 8 years later before I went on POLC, because I was getting sick of having the p1ss ripped out of me in the swimming pool by the t1t swingers.
    It was embarrasing when going on holiday with the Mrs as well. Oops.
  20. That was a good tat that, i liked it.

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