Tariq Jahan

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  1. I have been enormously impressed with the composure, rhetoric and bearing that this gentleman has displayed.

    Having lost a son in the height of the looting and arson his message, with a matter of hours, was to appeal for calm and the unity of all members of the wider community. He displayed this again yesterday on the stage in Birmingham.

    To me he has been far ahead of the politicians, from whatever party, who seem only bent on winning votes as a result of all this; and kept clear of the "who-said-what" row with the various police services involved.

    So, OBE? MBE? Knighthood? Peerage? Carry the Olympic Flame through the appropriate part of Birmingham?

  2. I could not agree more, what a shining example he is to us all. Had he turned the other way huge social unrest would probably have followed?
  3. He should be admired for agreeing to read that speech out.
  4. This man has done more to show the Moderate face of Islam than ALL the Imams put together.
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  5. Maybe put him in charge of instilling a social conscience in looting minors. It's blokes of his calibre, whatever their race, that are sorely needed now.
  6. I think thats the last thing he'd want.
  7. A voice of sanity, may the pain he feels about his lose be gentle
  8. He not only asked for calm but he got it too.The whole of the Muslim population in that area of Birmingham have displayed great restraint and dignity in the face of severe provocation.BZ to them also.
  9. It does beg the question though, how widespread is the "moderate" face of the Briton? Post riots most of the reaction I've heard is distinctly vicious, extremely authoritarian, violent, primitive and oppressive.

    How ironic.
  10. I have in the past been concerned by the creeping Ghettos in our land and I think it's now too far to remedy it no matter what the EDF say.
    I enjoy the diff. meals that they have introduced to our High St [except French] ,I admire the fact that parents will work all their life to build a shop for their children[My Casino owner boasted to me he was a millionaire aged 55 years old but he had to work 7 days a week in a Sandwhich bar in London to achieve that}he couldn't understand my observation he had lost his youth just to make money[he died at 67!]
    He never understood that British people shag every thing that walks and the kids can look after themselves.
    I admire them for that but it's not our way so I have enormous respect for the dignity this man who showed in his tragedy.
    If only Muslims or whatever Religion showed such tolerance.
    I wish him well.
  11. Eh? Elaborate?

    And it's the EDL not EDF. Unless energy companies are moving into the field of thinly veiled racist movements.

  12. Of course it has along with every other religion including Christianity.
    Unfortunataly only terror is newsworthy.
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  13. Shows what I know,I thought it was the English Defence Force but I'm not well up on these people.
    Simple point really,Some Muslims want to raise their flag over the country,that's stupid and will never happen so it's best to try and live as friends with diff.cultures and religion.
    It will work out better in the long run.
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  15. I'm always a bit sceptical of someone that shows no emotion at the death of a loved one. If it was my son I would have been a total wreck.
  16. Forgiveness of one another, and in particular of those who cause use harm is a key tenet of Islam. During Ramadan a pious Muslim will be particularly mindful of this.

    For all the beheading and eye-for-eye stuff we see across the Muslim world we are rarely shown the acts of tremendous forgiveness shown by families of the murdered/raped/robbed.
  17. Rife in Iraq and Afghanistan. Where they will simply request the bodies of their family members and calmly take them away. Often wrongly percieved as cold and unfeeling acts, it leaves me speechless and awestruck.
  18. Just because they choose to "show" their emotion in a different manner to the way others choose to does not make the grief any less real. I equally feel uncomfortable by the wailing and screaming and gnashing of teeth by some mourners from the African continent - it isn't how I would expect to do it in my "stiff upper lip British fashion" but does that mean their grief is any stronger than mine in similar circumstances?
  19. Different people,different culture,different perspective. In India, an elder's passing is celebrated.In the Middle East, shrieking at funerals is expected (and probably alot healthier) compared to bottling it up as we do in the West - or call it dignity.

    Nations,individuals react differently.Just because someone is composed in public doesn't make them unfeeling. Not everyone reacts outwardly violent to things.It's called 'stoicism', or maybe simply 'faith'

    We know next to nothing of this man,yet he's condemned by some on here, for what ? Being a muslim isn't enough reason, it's a total, massive over-simplification, 'Four legs good, two legs bad'. I think not.
  20. Ermm, You are six weeks well-adrift on this one and this is what you have to come up with??

    I've just read and re-read this thread and I cannot detect this 'condemnation' you appear to have detected by 'some on here'.

    Don't bother trying to respond, all water under the bridge now and my hat is still off to the man.

    (BTW We in the west do not and have not always bottled it up; have you never heard of 'keening', woman, or attended any funerals lately?)

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