Suspect burglar hurt in attack

Peter said:
Burglary is a crime and should be punished by law.
Assault is a crime and should be punished by law.

The authorities can not allow vigilantes to take the enforcement of the law into their own hands, that is the responsibility of the police force. If we permit such vigilante attacks to continue, then we render the police and the justice system redundant and possibly even the Government may become useless as the country decends into anarchy, which is why these four chaps will be made an example of. The correct procedure that they should have undertaken would be to inform the police of their suspicions and allow the police to conduct an official investigation.

However, because they initiated the attack it can be construed as assault, and it will be very easy for the burglar to assume the position of the victim, therefore, he will walk away Scot free.

Where this theory fall flat on its face is for those who belong to minorities who have every reason to remain mistrustful of the police and in any event still do. If you belong to one of these minorities (as I do) you are faced with two options: put up with it (as I've learned to do) or take the law into your own hands.

So you see there are times when vigilantism is necessary as a deterrent - but as a matter of policy is must be strongly resisted! If you engage in vigilantism you must be prepared to suffer the consequences! And the punishment ought be custodial to act as a warning to others!
 

flatbackpinky

Lantern Swinger
I have to disagree with the liberal anti vigilante crowd as i know full well if it had been my home he had entered without consent with the presumed intent of helping himself to my hard owned possesions i would have chased him untill i caught him or had a heart attack ( proberly the later ) i would not have stopped at my front door turned around and waited for the old bill to arrive and take a statement
 
flatbackpinky said:
I have to disagree with the liberal anti vigilante crowd as i know full well if it had been my home he had entered without consent with the presumed intent of helping himself to my hard owned possesions i would have chased him untill i caught him or had a heart attack ( proberly the later ) i would not have stopped at my front door turned around and waited for the old bill to arrive and take a statement

There is absolutely nothing wrong with giving chase and apprehending the chav to hand over to the police, and you can use enough viollence to to achieve this. What is not allowed is having caught the little scrote is to then give him a good kicking as well. Minimal force must be used but force can be used.
 
ANGWISH said:
What's to stop the yobs having their own vigilantes, to sort out the "legal" vigilantes??

Anarchy rules supreme

In some areas I know very likely, and already happening, they call it gang warfare.
 

pingbosun

Lantern Swinger
Maxi_77 said:
ANGWISH said:
What's to stop the yobs having their own vigilantes, to sort out the "legal" vigilantes??

Anarchy rules supreme

In some areas I know very likely, and already happening, they call it gang warfare.
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Gay Maxi_77. :idea:

Although I am far removed from the trouble in the UK, I keep in contact through a web site from the village I was born in.

They are actually going through this very problem, and last weekend they had a meeting in the local hall and asked two policemen along, these young cops surprised the locals by telling them the problems that they would find themselves in, by forming "Vigilante Patrols" ie. patrolling the area, guarding the properties and dealing with whom ever they caught by themselves.

Advising them against doing anything physical to whom ever they caught, and that by just organising these patrols to combat the menace, they would themselves be liable for "Jail time" if the perpetrators complained about being assaulted by the group.

However it seems that although the police gave this advice, they are not going to provide any extra protection to the area by extra police. Well I say extra, there were four local police stations in the 6 villages in the area, up until say ten years ago, when some-one authorised the dismantling of local police stations and personnel, promising that there would be patrols constantly provided. Of course this never happened.

So what do people do ?? Do they just turn the other cheek and hope that it doesn't happen to them?? Or do they go ahead and provide the patrols that are definitely required in the whole area. Something must be done !! But what??

pingbosun :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
 

brigham600

War Hero
AFAIC, if someone 'breaks' into my home then that entitles me to 'break' him or her.

I am totally sick of this country and the liberal wipes who continue to preach to us all what we should or shouldn't do.

Its MY home, MY possessions and MY things which I have worked hard for and if some little scroate attempts to take them, then he is fair game for a baseball bat.

If any of you liberal people out there don't like it or really think the police will ever actually do anything, then you really are in cloud cuckoo land.

Rant over.
 
pingbosun said:
Maxi_77 said:
ANGWISH said:
What's to stop the yobs having their own vigilantes, to sort out the "legal" vigilantes??

Anarchy rules supreme

In some areas I know very likely, and already happening, they call it gang warfare.
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Gay Maxi_77. :idea:

Although I am far removed from the trouble in the UK, I keep in contact through a web site from the village I was born in.

They are actually going through this very problem, and last weekend they had a meeting in the local hall and asked two policemen along, these young cops surprised the locals by telling them the problems that they would find themselves in, by forming "Vigilante Patrols" ie. patrolling the area, guarding the properties and dealing with whom ever they caught by themselves.

Advising them against doing anything physical to whom ever they caught, and that by just organising these patrols to combat the menace, they would themselves be liable for "Jail time" if the perpetrators complained about being assaulted by the group.

However it seems that although the police gave this advice, they are not going to provide any extra protection to the area by extra police. Well I say extra, there were four local police stations in the 6 villages in the area, up until say ten years ago, when some-one authorised the dismantling of local police stations and personnel, promising that there would be patrols constantly provided. Of course this never happened.

So what do people do ?? Do they just turn the other cheek and hope that it doesn't happen to them?? Or do they go ahead and provide the patrols that are definitely required in the whole area. Something must be done !! But what??

pingbosun :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

I presume calling me Gay Maxi was intended to be an insult, and if it was it really takes any strength away from your argument, and removes any obligation on me to provide a reasoned reply.
 

spider_monkey

Lantern Swinger
Slim, whilst I agree with the general theme of your comment don't you think it's a rather dangerous example to set to other 'have-a-go-hero’s'. I mean, getting caught is rather silly and this summary justice should have been take off Woodburn Ave - other good people need their sleep you know. The state of his sticky fingers should also have been addressed during the incident! If you're going to do a job do it right (and try not to get caught in the process).
 

Darkershadeofblu

Lantern Swinger
We have bikeshed type bus shelters in the W Mids. Perhaps the local councils would consider wasting a little more of our taxes in providing a suitable area behind these 'sheds' for 'corrective activities' to be carried out on/to the 'scrotes' who desecrate our streets and homes. I'm sure there are plenty of individuals willing to administer birchings and other suitable punishments that could be witnessed by a suitable JP or magistrate!!!
 

pingbosun

Lantern Swinger
Maxi_77 said:
pingbosun said:
Maxi_77 said:
ANGWISH said:
What's to stop the yobs having their own vigilantes, to sort out the "legal" vigilantes??

Anarchy rules supreme

In some areas I know very likely, and already happening, they call it gang warfare.
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G'day Maxi_77. :idea:

pingbosun :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

I presume calling me Gay Maxi (G'day Maxi was the intention) was intended to be an insult, and if it was it really takes any strength away from your argument, and removes any obligation on me to provide a reasoned reply.

I must apologise mate, I didn't notice the "TYPO", that I had made :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: if you read any of my post, then you can see that it should have read.......... G'day maxi. OZ slang for good day maxi :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

I'm so sorry mate, I know that you definitely are not gay. I'm so very sorry. The part about the gay guys had nothing to do with you. S*it mate, I am so very sorry for this.

I must honestly say that now after I got over the shock, I've had a wee bit of a chuckle.

Hope that you will forgive me and manage a wee bit of a chuckle yourself.

ever so sorry pingbosun
 
G'day Pingy,

What's this... attacking gays then hounding Maxi? Tut.. tut! Maxi might be an officer but he's one of the intelligent ones and commands much respect on RR. Go wash out your mouth with pussers hard and bleach!

PS: we don't all mince you know. :roll: Silly boy! :lol:

AAC.
 
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