Maxi_77 said:I am afraid that 4 blokes doinng over an aleged burglar several streets away is not legal, and if allowed would give the chavs even more excuses to use for some of their more violent activities.
Peter said:Burglary is a crime and should be punished by law.
Assault is a crime and should be punished by law.
The authorities can not allow vigilantes to take the enforcement of the law into their own hands, that is the responsibility of the police force. If we permit such vigilante attacks to continue, then we render the police and the justice system redundant and possibly even the Government may become useless as the country decends into anarchy, which is why these four chaps will be made an example of. The correct procedure that they should have undertaken would be to inform the police of their suspicions and allow the police to conduct an official investigation.
However, because they initiated the attack it can be construed as assault, and it will be very easy for the burglar to assume the position of the victim, therefore, he will walk away Scot free.
slim said:It is little wonder that in the current PC climate vigilantes are starting to appear
Peter said:Burglary is a crime and should be punished by law.
Assault is a crime and should be punished by law.
The authorities can not allow vigilantes to take the enforcement of the law into their own hands, that is the responsibility of the police force. If we permit such vigilante attacks to continue, then we render the police and the justice system redundant and possibly even the Government may become useless as the country decends into anarchy, which is why these four chaps will be made an example of. The correct procedure that they should have undertaken would be to inform the police of their suspicions and allow the police to conduct an official investigation.
However, because they initiated the attack it can be construed as assault, and it will be very easy for the burglar to assume the position of the victim, therefore, he will walk away Scot free.
flatbackpinky said:I have to disagree with the liberal anti vigilante crowd as i know full well if it had been my home he had entered without consent with the presumed intent of helping himself to my hard owned possesions i would have chased him untill i caught him or had a heart attack ( proberly the later ) i would not have stopped at my front door turned around and waited for the old bill to arrive and take a statement
ANGWISH said:What's to stop the yobs having their own vigilantes, to sort out the "legal" vigilantes??
Anarchy rules supreme
************************************************Maxi_77 said:ANGWISH said:What's to stop the yobs having their own vigilantes, to sort out the "legal" vigilantes??
Anarchy rules supreme
In some areas I know very likely, and already happening, they call it gang warfare.
pingbosun said:************************************************Maxi_77 said:ANGWISH said:What's to stop the yobs having their own vigilantes, to sort out the "legal" vigilantes??
Anarchy rules supreme
In some areas I know very likely, and already happening, they call it gang warfare.
Gay Maxi_77. :idea:
Although I am far removed from the trouble in the UK, I keep in contact through a web site from the village I was born in.
They are actually going through this very problem, and last weekend they had a meeting in the local hall and asked two policemen along, these young cops surprised the locals by telling them the problems that they would find themselves in, by forming "Vigilante Patrols" ie. patrolling the area, guarding the properties and dealing with whom ever they caught by themselves.
Advising them against doing anything physical to whom ever they caught, and that by just organising these patrols to combat the menace, they would themselves be liable for "Jail time" if the perpetrators complained about being assaulted by the group.
However it seems that although the police gave this advice, they are not going to provide any extra protection to the area by extra police. Well I say extra, there were four local police stations in the 6 villages in the area, up until say ten years ago, when some-one authorised the dismantling of local police stations and personnel, promising that there would be patrols constantly provided. Of course this never happened.
So what do people do ?? Do they just turn the other cheek and hope that it doesn't happen to them?? Or do they go ahead and provide the patrols that are definitely required in the whole area. Something must be done !! But what??
pingbosun :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: