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Sumo

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Pinkies, electronics, greenies heavy Elect
 

Dusty70

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Soon to be Admiral (by DM)


A Royal Navy warship nearly crashed into a fishing boat - after the officer on look-out closed the curtains and couldn't see where she was going.

Lieutenant Rebecca Stanley shut a 'blackout curtain' so she could get on with other work during the night shift on type 23 frigate HMS Sutherland, a court martial heard.

Lt Stanley even told a surprised colleague on the ship's bridge that if anyone asked 'she wasn't behind the curtain'.

The court heard that as she couldn't see outside, the frigate was being operated by an officer who could not keep a visual look out and had 'an extremely limited picture' of where other vessels were.

As a result, the 4,000 tonne warship came within just 600 yards of a 36 metre-long Dutch fishing boat in the North Sea, which had to change direction at the last minute.

Bulford Military Court in Wiltshire heard Lt Stanley, 31, had been asked to plan the pilotage for a boat transfer in Portland, Dorset that was due to take place the next day.

However, due to a delay the ship's arrival off the south coast was pushed back by almost 24 hours.

Unaware of this, the 'anxious' officer decided to do her planning for the manoeuvre, which she had never done before, during her night time watch, from around 1am to 4am.

As a result, the 4,000 tonne warship came within just 600 yards of a 36 metre-long Dutch fishing boat in the North Sea, which had to change direction at the last minute


As a result, the 4,000 tonne warship came within just 600 yards of a 36 metre-long Dutch fishing boat in the North Sea, which had to change direction at the last minute
Prosecuting, Lieutenant Solomon Hartley told the court Lt Stanley's poor judgement led to a 'near miss' with the Jan Cornelis fishing vessel as they headed towards the Dover Strait.

He said: 'She conducted the planning during her period as officer of the watch - this was not necessary or sensible. She closed a blackout curtain while conducting her task...

'She thought she had it all under control. She didn't have things under control and had things turned out differently she could have collided with the Jan Cornelis.'

Although she was able to view a radar screen, the court heard Lt Stanley had 'an extremely limited picture' of where other vessels were around her.

Bulford Military Court in Wiltshire heard Lt Stanley, 31, had been asked to plan the pilotage for a boat transfer in Portland, Dorset that was due to take place the next day
At one point another sailor asked her what she was doing behind the curtain.. She explained she was planning for the transfer and said if anyone asked 'she wasn't behind the curtain'.

Lt Hartley told the hearing 'fishing vessels' can be extremely 'erratic' and for that reason greater care is required when sailing near them.


During the middle of Lt Stanley's watch she noticed the Jan Cornelis was around 1400 yards away and reported this to her navigator before returning behind the curtain.

A short while later she noticed the ship's lights just 600 yards away and was 'shocked' by how close the vessel was.

Lt Stanley was ordered to pay a fine of £4,000 and told her she would also be severely reprimanded
Mitigating, Commander Kay Chadwick, said Lt Stanley had told colleagues on the bridge she was 'nipping behind the curtain to do some work' but had not been 'sleeping or using her phone'.

Lieutenant Stanley, who admitted a charge of 'negligently hazarding a ship', told the court martial: 'It was wrong and foolish of me to put the ship in that situation* I let myself and the ship's company down.

'Words cannot justify how sorry I am for the damage I almost caused.'

Sentencing her, Assistant Judge Advocate Alan Large, said: 'You shut yourself away at the back of the bridge. You shut the blackout curtain behind you and carried on with your planning.

'The most important thing is you weren't able to keep a visual look out - your bridge team had to prompt you about fishing vessels.'

He ordered Lt Stanley to pay a fine of £4,000 and told her she would also be severely reprimanded.
 

Sumo

War Hero
Soon to be Admiral (by DM)


A Royal Navy warship nearly crashed into a fishing boat - after the officer on look-out closed the curtains and couldn't see where she was going.

Lieutenant Rebecca Stanley shut a 'blackout curtain' so she could get on with other work during the night shift on type 23 frigate HMS Sutherland, a court martial heard.

Lt Stanley even told a surprised colleague on the ship's bridge that if anyone asked 'she wasn't behind the curtain'.

The court heard that as she couldn't see outside, the frigate was being operated by an officer who could not keep a visual look out and had 'an extremely limited picture' of where other vessels were.

As a result, the 4,000 tonne warship came within just 600 yards of a 36 metre-long Dutch fishing boat in the North Sea, which had to change direction at the last minute.

Bulford Military Court in Wiltshire heard Lt Stanley, 31, had been asked to plan the pilotage for a boat transfer in Portland, Dorset that was due to take place the next day.

However, due to a delay the ship's arrival off the south coast was pushed back by almost 24 hours.

Unaware of this, the 'anxious' officer decided to do her planning for the manoeuvre, which she had never done before, during her night time watch, from around 1am to 4am.

As a result, the 4,000 tonne warship came within just 600 yards of a 36 metre-long Dutch fishing boat in the North Sea, which had to change direction at the last minute


As a result, the 4,000 tonne warship came within just 600 yards of a 36 metre-long Dutch fishing boat in the North Sea, which had to change direction at the last minute
Prosecuting, Lieutenant Solomon Hartley told the court Lt Stanley's poor judgement led to a 'near miss' with the Jan Cornelis fishing vessel as they headed towards the Dover Strait.

He said: 'She conducted the planning during her period as officer of the watch - this was not necessary or sensible. She closed a blackout curtain while conducting her task...

'She thought she had it all under control. She didn't have things under control and had things turned out differently she could have collided with the Jan Cornelis.'

Although she was able to view a radar screen, the court heard Lt Stanley had 'an extremely limited picture' of where other vessels were around her.

Bulford Military Court in Wiltshire heard Lt Stanley, 31, had been asked to plan the pilotage for a boat transfer in Portland, Dorset that was due to take place the next day
At one point another sailor asked her what she was doing behind the curtain.. She explained she was planning for the transfer and said if anyone asked 'she wasn't behind the curtain'.

Lt Hartley told the hearing 'fishing vessels' can be extremely 'erratic' and for that reason greater care is required when sailing near them.


During the middle of Lt Stanley's watch she noticed the Jan Cornelis was around 1400 yards away and reported this to her navigator before returning behind the curtain.

A short while later she noticed the ship's lights just 600 yards away and was 'shocked' by how close the vessel was.

Lt Stanley was ordered to pay a fine of £4,000 and told her she would also be severely reprimanded
Mitigating, Commander Kay Chadwick, said Lt Stanley had told colleagues on the bridge she was 'nipping behind the curtain to do some work' but had not been 'sleeping or using her phone'.

Lieutenant Stanley, who admitted a charge of 'negligently hazarding a ship', told the court martial: 'It was wrong and foolish of me to put the ship in that situation* I let myself and the ship's company down.

'Words cannot justify how sorry I am for the damage I almost caused.'

Sentencing her, Assistant Judge Advocate Alan Large, said: 'You shut yourself away at the back of the bridge. You shut the blackout curtain behind you and carried on with your planning.

'The most important thing is you weren't able to keep a visual look out - your bridge team had to prompt you about fishing vessels.'

He ordered Lt Stanley to pay a fine of £4,000 and told her she would also be severely reprimanded.
Next promotion signal then?
 

Dredd

War Hero
Super Moderator
Well, that's all good then . . .

Mitigating, Commander Kay Chadwick, said Lt Stanley had told colleagues on the bridge she was 'nipping behind the curtain to do some work' but had not been 'sleeping or using her phone'.
That mitigation was almost as valuable as "well, we didn't actually hit it, did we?" from the "could have been worse" book of excuses.
 

Sumo

War Hero
Well, that's all good then . . .



That mitigation was almost as valuable as "well, we didn't actually hit it, did we?" from the "could have been worse" book of excuses.
I honestly cannot understated why the Cloggy boat wanted to get so close?
 

Dredd

War Hero
Super Moderator
Neither do I.

On an unrelated note, I wonder if the value of compensation would have more than covered the cost of the aging vessel and a disappointing haul during the trip?
 

Alfacharlie

War Hero
Neither do I.

On an unrelated note, I wonder if the value of compensation would have more than covered the cost of the aging vessel and a disappointing haul during the trip?
My last, and favourite ship!
Personally, that was brilliant on there.
 

WreckerL

War Hero
Super Moderator
I was wondering why the courts martial was held in Bulford. It used to be the case that it was held in the opposite base to the miscreants base port i.e. Guzz rating tried in Pompey, and vice versa.
 
I was wondering why the courts martial was held in Bulford. It used to be the case that it was held in the opposite base to the miscreants base port i.e. Guzz rating tried in Pompey, and vice versa.
Cause the courts have been bulldozed in the bases (Pompey’s last year and is now a car park).


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crash_evans

War Hero
I was wondering why the courts martial was held in Bulford. It used to be the case that it was held in the opposite base to the miscreants base port i.e. Guzz rating tried in Pompey, and vice versa.
They still retain one in Colchester and one for the RAF. We have our exclusively at Bulford. Most of the more serious cases from the junior services go to Bulford.


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Union Jack

Badgeman
Soon to be Admiral (by DM)


A Royal Navy warship nearly crashed into a fishing boat - after the officer on look-out closed the curtains and couldn't see where she was going.

Lieutenant Rebecca Stanley shut a 'blackout curtain' so she could get on with other work during the night shift on type 23 frigate HMS Sutherland, a court martial heard.
Whilst slightly reluctant to add to this interesting thread drift, more Surface Fleet (Bodge) than (Badge), I'm still trying to get over the reference to "the night shift" - "the night shift"!:eek:

Jack
 

janner

MIA
Book Reviewer
I surprised that the punishment didn't include dismissed from the service. It's hard to think of a more deliberate dereliction of duty. I suspect that if a junior rate had done something similar at their level the punishment would have been more severe.
 

Sumo

War Hero
Whilst slightly reluctant to add to this interesting thread drift, more Surface Fleet (Bodge) than (Badge), I'm still trying to get over the reference to "the night shift" - "the night shift"!:eek:

Jack
for normal matelots that's going to be the middle for WAFU's it would be the Afternoon
 

Sumo

War Hero
I surprised that the punishment didn't include dismissed from the service. It's hard to think of a more deliberate dereliction of duty. I suspect that if a junior rate had done something similar at their level the punishment would have been more severe.
maybe she has connection?

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