Sunday Mail and more Chandlers disinformation

Discussion in 'Current Affairs' started by wave_dodger, Nov 29, 2009.

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  1. wave_dodger

    wave_dodger War Hero Book Reviewer

    You have to hand it to the Daily/Sunday Mail for their ever more rabid anti-Royal Navy articles.

    Poorly research and backed up by "sources" that are never named, not because their careers are at risk but because they're misinformed, opinionated low life who feed rubbish to the gutter press.

    Who ever it was on the Wave Knight deserves to be strung up.

    I cannot believe the Mail really thinks it would have been a sane command decision to attemp to rescue the Chandlers with an LSDA, one merlin (aircrew NOT trained for Maritime Counter Terror operations), and a team from FMPG who are not hostage-rescue trained.

    In the ensuing firefight, when a stray, or otherwise, round killed one or both of the Chandlers I am sure the press would be baying for the Commander who made the decision to commence - we, the RN, were not in a position to oppose the hostage taking, plain and simple but very much regrettable.

    Its a big ocean, the Navies cannot be everywhere and we have not trained our sailors and Marines for counter terrorism and opposed/non compliant boarding, that is a task for specialist assets that are limited.

    These journalist do nothing but harm, perhaps they are ex-RAF or ex-Pongoes...........
     
  2. Similar thread running on ARRSE (link) and I have just posted this:

    Yet another inaccurate and ill-informed example of 'Hate Mail' directed at our beleaguered naval forces in theatre:

    Royal Marines could have rescued pirate hostages, but the order to attack never came

    As wave_dodger has implied, the booties concerned were probably quite capable of performing opposed boardings and atomising a pirate boat and its occupants if necessary but they were not SF trained in hostage rescue. When will people realise that such delicate operations as hostage rescue are not simply a matter of having superior fire-power? If that were true, there would never be any problem. In case people think our counter-piracy frustrations are exclusive to the RN, read:

    Navy releases Somali pirates caught red-handed
     
  3. sgtpepperband

    sgtpepperband War Hero Moderator Book Reviewer

    I am concerned - but not entirely surprised - by the readers' comments below that article. It seems that the voices of common sense have been given significantly more negative responses than those "shoot 'em all!" rants, which seem to think that we can just drift around the oceans of the world killing baddies on a whim, like Lee van Cleef in a foul weather jacket... :roll:
     
  4. I suspect that's more an illustration of the fantacising celebrity-obsessed readership to which this paper panders than a reflection of rational-thinking people.
     
  5. sgtpepperband

    sgtpepperband War Hero Moderator Book Reviewer

    The 'Daily Mail' and 'rational-thinking people' do not go together... :oops:
     
  6. What the papers don't mention is that when other nations have tried hostile actions against the pirates hostages have ended up being killed.

    At least at the moment they are alive, - let's hope they get released sooner rather than later.
     
  7. Whatever the truth is in this incident,and I don't pretend to know it,the whole problem seems to stem from the original MOD statement which downplayed Wave Knight's involvement.Along comes Mr Anonymous and gives a differing account which the press choose to believe and the facts are left for dead.Can anyone supply a reliable source because I for one am now completely confused. :?
     

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