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IlikeB33r

Lantern Swinger
Hi all,

First of all, I'd like to say thanks to everyone that helped me get as far as I have. I am now over half way through basic training and I don't think I would of done it without the help of Rum ration.

Now, to the matter at hand.

All stokers and we's have been been given the opportunity to change to our respected counter parts for me, the change to ME to MESM.

Over the past two weeks I have genuinely been thinking about it, more money, based in Faslane (I live in Scotland, so a bonus) and the same qualifications.

I was hoping someone might be able to help me on the deployment front and give me a little more detail on the types of deployments you can find for V, A and T class boats. I would ask my div staff when I'm back but we were told to try come back with a decision.

All help is appreciated!
 

SONAR-BENDER

War Hero
Me first! As you'll no doubt know, the V boats are the bombers - hardly go anywhere - if you are very lucky you might get a trip to the USA. BUT - you will be able to plan your life with a fair degree of precision, as you'll know the dates when you will be out on patrol and back off patrol for months, if not years in advance. maybe not important now, but maybe more important when there is a wifey and sprog around! Also as a Jock the weather won't come as a shock!

T boats are now the dowagers of the Fleet with the A boats being the all new, shiney sleek black messengers of death. Possibly more scope for more modern kit on an A boat and possibly more chance of foreign jollies on any Fleet boat, but not in any way definite these days.

I'm sure an upto date submariner will come along soon with more/better info.

Good luck - I'd take the dosh (being Scottish!!)
 

WreckerL

War Hero
Super Moderator
SB has said it in a nutshell, but as an ME, if you get V boats you're not nailed to them. Once qualified you can bounce between classes so if bombers get boring, slap in for a A boat for your next sea draft (not guaranteed but you just keep asking}.

Opposite applies, if you get A boats and after a while, maybe personal circumstances change, and you want more regularity in your life, slap in for a V boat.
 

WreckerL

War Hero
Super Moderator
Depends what you mean by rotations. You get drafted to a boat (2.5 - 3 years), go inboard or off on career course, get drafted to another boat, go inboard or off on courses, get drafted to another boat...continue until retirement.
 

IlikeB33r

Lantern Swinger
Thanks for the comments guys. When I referred to rotation I was meaning more at any given time what is the longest you'll stay under? I understand normally the sole reason for coming up is food supply.
 

SONAR-BENDER

War Hero
Ilky, you may be getting confused with the FACT that any nuclear boat can run effectively for years - the only limiting factor being the crew. Air is made, water is made, but food must be re-supplied.

'In the old days' when going out on patrol we always 'stored for war', which meant walking on boxes full of tinned food, half a dozen loo rolls stuffed across the end of your bunk etc. However, with a few exceptions, the boats generally came back on 'normal' rations, though there were definitely some that came back with next to nothing. Even with the current reduced manning etc, I'm fairly sure you'd get back to Faslamabad before cannibalism commenced.
 

WreckerL

War Hero
Super Moderator
The longest you'll spend dived in one go averages out at 3 months, you store for a minimum of 90 days, if you stay out longer you just go on to rationing. I've been a boats where we've had to do that a couple of times, you won't starve.
 

IlikeB33r

Lantern Swinger
The longest you'll spend dived in one go averages out at 3 months, you store for a minimum of 90 days, if you stay out longer you just go on to rationing. I've been a boats where we've had to do that a couple of times, you won't starve.

Lovely, thanks for the info! Think I'm going to have to grow a set and make the change when i'm back.
 
Just be warned though, as an ME, your watchkeeping duty alongside as a MESM is pretty high - indeed, it's given as one of the top reasons why people are leaving. ME GS have a significantly reduced burden once alongside.
 

WreckerL

War Hero
Super Moderator
Just be warned though, as an ME, your watchkeeping duty alongside as a MESM is pretty high - indeed, it's given as one of the top reasons why people are leaving. ME GS have a significantly reduced burden once alongside.

If you go back aft it's generally 1 in 4 duties, watch and watch about for the 24 hours, if you become fwd staff it's entirely different, less duties, less watchkeeping.
 
1 in 4 if you're fully manned, and no-one is taking leave, ill, on course.

Whereas a ME SR in a FF/DD is probably about 1 in 8 at the same time. It is what it is.
 

WreckerL

War Hero
Super Moderator
1 in 4 if you're fully manned, and no-one is taking leave, ill, on course.

Whereas a ME SR in a FF/DD is probably about 1 in 8 at the same time. It is what it is.

Manning isn't that bad and you need a minimum of 3 to maintain a seagoing watchbill, been there, done that!!
 

cjg375

Lantern Swinger
Whereas a ME SR in a FF/DD is probably about 1 in 8 at the same time. It is what it is.

Er not quite. In DD there are only 7 ME POs who make up the MESR roster if no gaps and everyone is qualified, which is rare these days. The 3 CPOs generally cover the Duty AP roster and augment the MESR roster a little but it's by no means 1 in 8.
 

SONAR-BENDER

War Hero
Can't help noticing that in his eagerness to jump into a submarine thread AtG has gone from JR's duty watch ratios to SR's duties. Just saying like.......

And it isn't quite like for like - you see we have this big kettle thingy that needs a bit of specialised looking after.

Innit
 

IlikeB33r

Lantern Swinger
Can't help noticing that in his eagerness to jump into a submarine thread AtG has gone from JR's duty watch ratios to SR's duties. Just saying like.......

And it isn't quite like for like - you see we have this big kettle thingy that needs a bit of specialised looking after.

Innit

It's fine. I've been here long enough to not jump in.. I've seen the BRNC May thread... :confused:
 
Can't help noticing that in his eagerness to jump into a submarine thread AtG has gone from JR's duty watch ratios to SR's duties. Just saying like.......

And it isn't quite like for like - you see we have this big kettle thingy that needs a bit of specialised looking after.

Innit

But at some point he's going to be a SR...
 
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