Mmmmm very dodgy topic but I would welcome constructive comments. For years the submarine fraternity has delivered a positive and consistant endorsement of their superiority over general service. I wonder how this has develped after all I remember being on Cherry B in 74 and visiting Warspite claustrophobic yes but better accomodation than a Leander. What have they achieved since, yes they sank Belgrano an old WW2 cruiser. the general service and fleet air arm beat the argies in the end. As for up north war games really even if you can't shower as often as GS but at least you go in hotels ashore. Tomahawk is delivered from 500 NM plus so where's the danger there. My humble opinion post WW2 you have given yourselves a reputation that is elitist but underserved. Wouldn't do it myself but all I ever saw in Devonport were submariners with the LS&GC and Jubilee Medal. I still love you all but take a reality check. I sit back and await the flack after all you did get paid for it which is why most of you transferred.