Submarine Service - A better career?

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I'm going off to Dartmouth mid-September to train as a Warfare Officer (Submariner). I didn't choose this (I chose general service) and at first I was slightly apprehensive that I wouldn't like it, but I've come around to the idea now. (I'm also aware that this role isn't set in stone and can change over the course of my training).

Anyway, I was looking at the commanding officers of current surface fleet (I was very bored) for an idea of where their career had taken them. It would appear that a small majority of them are actually ex-Submariners.

Is this merely a coincidence or are Submariner's careers more readily progressed because there are fewer of them?
 
#3
Are you sure you're not biased?

Also, how often do submarines stop off for a run ashore? I can't imagine submarines ever making time for it!
 
#4
There's plenty of time for runs ashore (SSN's only) plus if you've passed perisher, running a skimmer is childs play.

Interesting phrase you use " It would appear that a small majority of them are actually ex-Submariners"

How does that work then?

Edited to add you normally get at least one run ashore as you have to store ship every 3 months, also depends on what hotels are available, don't want to be spending your own money.

Last 6 month deployment East of Suez I did we had runs ashore in Crete (twice), Diego Garcia, Mombasa and Bahrain. Not as many as our skimmer friends but they didn't get hotels and subsistance :winkrazz:
 
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#5
A small majority just means that whilst there were more people with Dolphins, it wasn't an overwhelming amount.

I can take it out if you're having problems with it :p:

Have you any ideas what the pre-requisites are for the Perisher course?
 
#7
A small majority just means that whilst there were more people with Dolphins, it wasn't an overwhelming amount.

I can take it out if you're having problems with it :p:

Have you any ideas what the pre-requisites are for the Perisher course?
There's threads on here covering that but basically you do Basic Warfare Course to be a dogsbody, Intermediate Warfare Course to become Navigating Officer etc then Advanced Warfare Course to become a watch leader and then if your good enough and get recommended you can get on to perisher. Piece of piss really!!! (and I've edited my previous post)
 

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There's plenty of time for runs ashore (SSN's only) plus if you've passed perisher, running a skimmer is childs play.

Interesting phrase you use " It would appear that a small majority of them are actually ex-Submariners"

How does that work then?



Edited to add you normally get at least one run ashore as you have to store ship every 3 months, also depends on what hotels are available, don't want to be spending your own money.

Last 6 month deployment East of Suez I did we had runs ashore in Crete (twice), Diego Garcia, Mombasa and Bahrain. Not as many as our skimmer friends but they didn't get hotels and subsistance :winkrazz:
I suppose a small majority is bigger than a small minority :slow:

Just to add also is that many grunters :snorting: choose to not do / or not made the grade :withstupid: for Perisher and find themselves back in skimmers as a natural career progression w/out s/m pay. Also those that FAIL perisher are 'booted out' of submarines "sudden death' style and return to GS.

Generally the highest rank is Cdr, although there has been/is the occasional 4 ringer on bombers or first of class. I remember 2 ringer skippers on diesel boats but then we had loads of boats and perishers were a constant happening with the Chileans and Brazilians having 'O' boats as well as our cousins. My second skipper on Turbs (I had three) was a two and a half. It is not uncommon to see a s/m or pilot CO in GS.

Friday night see yerzzz :party:
 
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Dr_Acula,

An act for you to follow, yet sadly his fine RN CV doesn't tell you whether he was a Vol. or Non-Vol. for Boats.
 
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Thanks Sol,

His answer to this one should be posted as a Sticky on your Newbies Forum::

<<What do you prize in new recruits?

Attitude, determination, loyalty, commitment and, possibly most important, a sense of humour.>>



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#18
of course, the 4 year job of XO after completing Perisher, when allied to the utter lack of shore jobs when a senior Lt/junior Lt Cdr does mean that quite a few guys choose to step back to GS instead of staying in boats. Interestingly, I had a CO who failed Perisher, and is now 2 ranks higher than any of his SM contemporaries; just goes to show it's not a career killer the SM Service make it out to be.
 
#19
Submariner's tend to think so, ref your comment about CO's of the current surface fleet during my time on ASW frigates I had a few CO's who were or had been Submariners, Set a Thief to catch a thief was part of the reasoning.