Submarine school - piping the side

lesart

Midshipman
#1
Correct me if I'm wrong but did I see Cincfleet being piped on(or off) when it was dark? I was under the impression that the side is only piped (for entitled British officers)between the hours of colours and sunset or have regulations changed?
 
#2
Correct me if I'm wrong but did I see Cincfleet being piped on(or off) when it was dark? I was under the impression that the side is only piped (for entitled British officers)between the hours of colours and sunset or have regulations changed?
You are 100% correct. Just typical officers getting their much needed brownie points in.
 
#3
So they ignore their own traditions in order to make themselves look a bit more fancy on tv?

I thought Integrity was important to the navy.
 

Seaweed

War Hero
Book Reviewer
#7
Did he have 'American Dan' in tow? Rule was that foreign naval officers of all ranks were piped day or night. Everyone else Colours to Sunset only, and only in uniform EXCEPT HM. RN gets round piping Prime Ministers and similar trash by behaving someone eligible come up the brow with them, e.g. CO meets at the foor of the brow, Flag Officer may be accompanying PM etc on his rounds of our glorious fleet etc..
 
#8
Did he have 'American Dan' in tow? Rule was that foreign naval officers of all ranks were piped day or night. Everyone else Colours to Sunset only, and only in uniform EXCEPT HM. RN gets round piping Prime Ministers and similar trash by behaving someone eligible come up the brow with them, e.g. CO meets at the foor of the brow, Flag Officer may be accompanying PM etc on his rounds of our glorious fleet etc..
Doesn't make any difference. Had to know all this crap when I was an OOD.
 
#9
BRd 2

Chapter 92

Para. 9203

Piping the Side

1. Between the hours of Colours and sunset, the side is to be piped for the following, coming on
board or leaving one of Her Majesty’s ships:

a. Her Majesty The Queen.
b. His Royal Highness The Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh, when in naval uniform.
c. Other members of the Royal Family of the rank of Captain, RN or Reserve, and above, when in
naval uniform.
d. The Admiralty Board and Commonwealth Naval Boards, when acting as Boards.
e. Officers of Flag rank in uniform and Commodores in uniform.
f. An officer in uniform if holding an appointment in command of a Commonwealth seagoing ship of
war or tender in commission, but such officer coming on board by a brow is not to be piped unless
arriving at a pre-arranged time.
g. The President or a member of a court-martial proceeding to or returning from the court.
h. The Officer of the Guard when flying a pennant.
i. A body when being brought on board or sent out of a ship.
j. Professional heads of Commonwealth navies.

2. The side is to be piped at all hours for officers of foreign navies in uniform, i.e. officers of navies
other than those of Commonwealth countries. Local orders for NATO Standing Naval Forces may
modify these instructions.

3. The side should normally be piped for an officer entitled to it even if accompanying a senior
officer who is not so entitled.

4. The side is not to be piped at any shore establishment.

5. For officers on the Retired List, see Para. 9220.
 
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#10
BRd 2

Chapter 92

Para. 9203

Piping the Side

1. Between the hours of Colours and sunset, the side is to be piped for the following, coming on
board or leaving one of Her Majesty’s ships:

a. Her Majesty The Queen.
b. His Royal Highness The Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh, when in naval uniform.
c. Other members of the Royal Family of the rank of Captain, RN or Reserve, and above, when in
naval uniform.
d. The Admiralty Board and Commonwealth Naval Boards, when acting as Boards.
e. Officers of Flag rank in uniform and Commodores in uniform.
f. An officer in uniform if holding an appointment in command of a Commonwealth seagoing ship of
war or tender in commission, but such officer coming on board by a brow is not to be piped unless
arriving at a pre-arranged time.
g. The President or a member of a court-martial proceeding to or returning from the court.
h. The Officer of the Guard when flying a pennant.
i. A body when being brought on board or sent out of a ship.
j. Professional heads of Commonwealth navies.

2. The side is to be piped at all hours for officers of foreign navies in uniform, i.e. officers of navies
other than those of Commonwealth countries. Local orders for NATO Standing Naval Forces may
modify these instructions.

3. The side should normally be piped for an officer entitled to it even if accompanying a senior
officer who is not so entitled.

4. The side is not to be piped at any shore establishment.

5. For officers on the Retired List, see Para. 9220.
I stand corrected said the man in the orthopedic shoes! Always was a crap OOD!!!!!
 
#12
Did he have 'American Dan' in tow? Rule was that foreign naval officers of all ranks were piped day or night. Everyone else Colours to Sunset only, and only in uniform EXCEPT HM. RN gets round piping Prime Ministers and similar trash by behaving someone eligible come up the brow with them, e.g. CO meets at the foor of the brow, Flag Officer may be accompanying PM etc on his rounds of our glorious fleet etc..
I think American Dan was already onboard which is why I asked about entitled British officers.
 
#13
A very well informed source has assured me that the presence of American Dan was the reason for this.

I don't think that the scene in question was broad enough for viewers to see all the Officers assembled together at that point and I gather that American Dan was among them but not in shot.
 

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