Studying a degree in the Royal Navy.

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  1. Hi People,

    I just wanted to know if its possible to study for a degree whilst in the Royal Navy?

    I know they sponsor people at University but is it possible to study whilst in the Royal Navy.

    Thanks.
     
  2. Not for a first degree as a Direct Entrant Officer; it is possible to earn a foundation degree as an Engineering Technician, which if you are selected as an Upper Yardman may be topped up to a BEng. The likelihood of the latter happening is very low.
     
  3. Do you have a particular degree in mind?
     
  4. I would like to study either English or Business Studies ideally but would be open to other subjects if it helped me progress further through the Royal Navy.
     
  5. Open university ?
     
  6. When serving (and I would advise waiting until your training is complete), you can use your yearly Standard Learning Credits (SLCs) towards the cost of doing OU modules. Advice will be available via your Education and Resettlement Centre (or ERO when on board).

    Many serving RN personnel undertake OU degrees. You may want to try an "arty" subject or Psychology as the majority of students are female which helps when attending the OU one week Summer Schools.

    Subject to operational commitments and training, you should be able to attend the Summer School without taking leave and get help towards the cost.
     
  7. Mate, daffy has the answer. As a warfare or loggie officer you can get a Foundation degree at BRNC then top up with the OU to a full Honours degree. There's lots more opportunities to progress whatever you want to do and whatever you join as. Just needs a bit of discipline. Did this route myself. Good luck.
     
  8. Anything is possible. The forces in general embrace education.

    If an officer studying on board, easy to get quiet time, own cabin/space etc. As a rating I imagine trying to find a quiet corner for study would be more difficult, not impossible though.

    Then of course my favourite quote from the film Masters and Commanders!! "Subject to the requirements of the Service". You will have to remember the Navies needs come first. I had an exam booked, invigilators fees paid, then the ship decided to go to sea!! Bloody inconvenient but such is life. (The mob did pay me back my fees, but I did have to wait a year to re-sit the exam).
     
  9. Ninja_Stoker

    Ninja_Stoker War Hero Moderator

    Your personal development through academic achievement is very much encouraged & it's up to the individual whether they apply themselves.

    Study is in your own free time & many find it difficult to manage, however many succeed - particularly whilst deployed. The service will not however release you to undergo full time study at University, so it's OU you should be looking toward.

    There is a scheme to help offset the charges of further education once you join the services & it's called the Learning Credits Scheme:

    LEARNING CREDITS

    This has been encouraged through the Standard Learning Credits (SLC) scheme.

    The Enhanced Learning Credits (ELC) scheme, which will complement the SLC scheme, is a significant new educational initiative to further motivate full time members of the Armed Forces to pursue their personal development both during their Service and for up to ten years afterwards, subject to certain criteria being met.

    Aim of the Enhanced Learning Credits (ELC) Scheme is to provide funding support to Service personnel who wish to enhance their educational or vocational achievements, and who face substantial financial expenditure in doing so.

    Relationship Between “Standard” And “Enhanced” Learning Credits

    SLCs supply financial support, throughout the Service person’s career, for multiple, small-scale learning enterprises.

    The ELC scheme is designed to complement the SLC scheme by providing [U larger scale help [/u]to personnel who qualify, with a single payment in each of a maximum of three separate financial years, to help pay for larger-scale, higher level learning.

    As ELCs are a large-scale and attractive award, the scheme is subject to strict entry criteria. Claimants are required to make a positive commitment to higher level, larger scale, lifelong learning by joining the ELC scheme - and the opportunities to do so are limited.

    Having joined the ELC scheme an individual must then complete a minimum period of service in the Armed Forces before being eligible to make an ELC claim at the lower tier and a further period of service before becoming eligible to make a claim at the upper tier.

    ELC awards are available at two “tiers”: the “Lower Tier” level of up to £1000 per annum for those with four or more years’ eligible service; and at the “Upper Tier” level of up to £2000 per annum for those with eight or more years’ eligible service.

    As with SLCs, the ELC scheme is based upon the principle that individuals will make a personal contribution to the cost of their learning. ELC support will comprise not more than 80% of course costs, up to the annual limit.

    JOINING THE ELC SCHEME

    Applicants must be in Service both when they apply and when they are accepted onto the ELC Scheme.

    All new recruits to the Armed Forces are to be made aware of the existence of the Enhanced Learning Credits (ELC) scheme during either the recruitment process or during basic training, They will be able to join the scheme by signing an ELC application form. They must complete this process not later than 12 calendar months after enlistment
     
  10. So the navy won't help you out financially for education until you've served for 4 years or am I being thick?
     
  11. Studied
    with OU, they say you only need a few hours a week, true on a few courses but
    not many, the time commitment can be

    difficult to achieve, at sea normally time to learn but cannot contact tutor,
    so when stuck you are normally stuffed unless some else has done same course,
    but I found it rewarding as it got me my first civy job but take not, there are
    some that say if you do not use a degree (especially Technical Degrees) in
    anger within the first 2 years then it is not much use, but does show an ability
    to learn. So taking a little later when you have finished training and have
    chosen what you want to do, you could start early and do an arty as suggested
    and enjoy the summer schools, then a bit later do another one before you go
    outside? I knew a few that did at least 2 OU degrees, one deliberately chose
    his course on high female to male ratio on the course?
     
  12. Cheers sumo, not too worried about the content, already got one under my belt in biology was thinking maybe upgrading to masters or maybe another undergrad in physics. To be fair I didn't consider the appeal of a summer school with a high female ratio, maybe I'll do English literature... I was more interested in whether you can finish your training then pick up a course instantly or after a number of years service?
     
  13. I did an OU degree in History whilst in the mob, they paid and allowed me all the time I required to sit exams even excusing me sea time whilst on HSS. Not sure if it would have been the case if the ship was deploying for foreign parts.
     
  14. I my case probably did not sober up for first 1/2 doz years or so, then I settled back into learning, very slowly.
     
  15. Take a look at correspondence courses through Oxford Brookes University.

    There used to be grants from somehwere to help towards courses for people earning below a certain amount even if in work. I suspect it was earning under £18000.

    PBS
     
  16. On a side note I've been looking into weapons engineer officers career path etc. and studying for a masters seems to be an option available. From finding some people on Linkedin everyone seems to have done an Msc at Cranfield university, is this mainly due to the specialised defence nature of the degrees, something to do with funding or do people not bother applying to other universities?
     
  17. If there is a requirement, you can volunteer for a MSc at Cranfield in one of several specialised areas. You will tend to need a 2:1 in your BEng and it will result in your career being streamed in a certain manner. It's only something to consider post-DWEO time.
     
  18. Sorry to bring up an old thread but History is the subject that I would be looking into studying as well. I decided that I wanted to get into the RN instead of going to uni and studying for a history degree. How long did it take you to complete your degree rumrat and would you advise trying to start the degree as soon as possible or would a few years serving in the mob and working on taskbooks be a better option before studying?
     
    Last edited: Feb 13, 2013
  19. You start by addressing Rummers and switch to Guzzler? Either a wind up or your attention to detail is lacking, not a good start for higher education. Guzzler did not post on this thread.
    If it’s a gen Q then I took 6 years one per 60 points. Only you can decide when it is best to start as to your own work and personal life commitments. Taking on an OU degree can be a lot harder than you may imagine re time required, you will probably find the 6 years is a fairly average time for an OU degree, some who have more time to commit are quicker some take longer, also take account that the OU do not always run courses every year so you could be in a pickle do a different course or wait until the one you want is run.
    So if you think you can predict what life is going to throw at you over 6 years good luck, my personal opinion is if you can afford and have the time and acumen to do a full time University degree I would go that route, but that’s my opinion after taking 2 distance degrees, it’s kin hard work, and who as ever heard of full time students really working hard, keeping a full time job and family going as well as a degree? I am sure there may be a few that are smart enough?
    Which ever way you go good luck:confused2: :sweatdrop: :thumleft:
     
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  20. Have you considered uni at all? Can always join the reserves or the university officer corps (cant remember the name!) to get involved and also to earn some pocket money. kudos to those who manage to complete a degree whilst in (im still applying so cant comment fully on that, but i know people who have struggled with an ou degree and a full time job, let alone one which changes your whole life style!) i went to uni in 2010 as the waiting list for the role i wanted was 3 years or so, and i have loved every minute! My ambition to join hasnt wained either, and i am in the waiting game now and will have my degree as well come july :)
     

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