Still have .303's on ships?

WhizzbangDai

War Hero
I was chatting to a (supposed) RN Officer today, and he said that all ships still carry some Lee Enfield .303's because SA80's are too short to be effective when repelling boarders with a bayonet.

Have I been waah'd? Seems to me 30 rounds of 5.56 is more useful than a bolt action rifle with a sword bayonet?
 

The_Jimmy

War Hero
WhizzbangDai said:
I was chatting to a (supposed) RN Officer today, and he said that all ships still carry some Lee Enfield .303's because SA80's are too short to be effective when repelling boarders with a bayonet.

Have I been waah'd? Seems to me 30 rounds of 5.56 is more useful than a bolt action rifle with a sword bayonet?
did he also tell you that stokers still shovel coal on board some of HM ships?
 

R12_CV

Lantern Swinger
I'd be the last member of the platoon ascending the ladder to the weather deck with 'swords' fixed..!!!
 

R12_CV

Lantern Swinger
The_Jimmy said:
did he also tell you that stokers still shovel coal on board some of HM ships?
They have to shovel it...it won't go through the fuel pumps..!
 
If 303's are still used, they are probably used for firing the first line from ship to ship prior to a RAS. (Replenishment At Sea).
As for repelling boarders. HA!
 

WhizzbangDai

War Hero
Bah, lol I suspected as much, (honest!)



but there are so many little idiosyncracies in the British Forces you never know.
 

The_Jimmy

War Hero
Grim_Reaper said:
If 303's are still used, they are probably used for firing the first line from ship to ship prior to a RAS. (Replenishment At Sea).
As for repelling boarders. HA!
I thought it would have been that great classic weapon the SLR for that evoloution.
 

Ships_Cat

War Hero
The_Jimmy said:
Grim_Reaper said:
If 303's are still used, they are probably used for firing the first line from ship to ship prior to a RAS. (Replenishment At Sea).
As for repelling boarders. HA!
I thought it would have been that great classic weapon the SLR for that evoloution.
Sure used to be, unless they came up with something else to hurl the donkeys plonker across with, since 5.56 blanks and the SA80 barrel seem to fail in that respect..... The only time dabbers are allowed out with a rifle, its got blanks and a big dobber on the end.....
 

Seaweed

War Hero
Book Reviewer
The SLR replaced the .303 across the board in 1967 (and the Stirling the Lanchester) but I seem to remember that, at leastinitially, a .303 was retained for the Costen gun line (fired a brass bolt about a foot long with the line attached.
 

RN_Commando

Banned
WhizzbangDai said:
I was chatting to a (supposed) RN Officer today, and he said that all ships still carry some Lee Enfield .303's because SA80's are too short to be effective when repelling boarders with a bayonet.

Have I been waah'd? Seems to me 30 rounds of 5.56 is more useful than a bolt action rifle with a sword bayonet?
Utter bollox's
 

instinct

Lantern Swinger
Seaweed said:
The SLR replaced the .303 across the board in 1967 (and the Stirling the Lanchester) but I seem to remember that, at leastinitially, a .303 was retained for the Costen gun line (fired a brass bolt about a foot long with the line attached.
I remember watching the H&S video a while ago. Had them doing a RAS and showing why you do as your told with the bolt bouncing around till connecting with someones nuts. However i digress, that was fired with a SLR so it had the capability.
 
instinct said:
Seaweed said:
The SLR replaced the .303 across the board in 1967 (and the Stirling the Lanchester) but I seem to remember that, at leastinitially, a .303 was retained for the Costen gun line (fired a brass bolt about a foot long with the line attached.
I remember watching the H&S video a while ago. Had them doing a RAS and showing why you do as your told with the bolt bouncing around till connecting with someones nuts. However i digress, that was fired with a SLR so it had the capability.
I think the reason the 303 was retained at least at first for the costoin gun line was that the 'line throwing rifle' was not used for ordinary bullets as the barrel was a trifle mucked about by the brass rod being fired out of it. The gun line rifles were not replaced by SLRs until they had a few scruffy SLRs for the purpose. Mind you I never served in a surface ship with SLRs anyway.

I think the SA80 is different because they us the 40mm grenade laucher bit rather than stuffing a bit of brass rod down the barrel and firing a blank to chuck it out.
 

Oil_Slick

War Hero
IIRC, the No4.s were smooth bored and fired big brass rod using a blank. SLR's and SA80's use a modification of their Blank Firing Adaptors so you don't need a modified barrel.
 

Stripey_G

War Hero
Only know for sure the LE .303 was the chosen weapon for lugging about above yer head when on no.9 punishment!! Ferking heavy barstwerd thing!
 

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