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speed camera

13/19 - but as I live in the Independent Republic of Livingstonia (The Smoke to the uninitiated) we get to recognise the sneaky blighters...!!
They (the vans) don't like being spotted, and reminded when they are parking illegally on the Red Routes :wink:
 
Twelve again.

I know a few roads locally where they should have those things stop the knobs killing a child but No! they are placed where the takings are good.
 

slim

War Hero
Seriously static speed cameras do not work. Drivers get to know where they are and slow down for them then accelerate away. If the powers are really interested in keeping the traffic to a set speed then Average speed cameras are the way to go. I frequently drive from Wokingham to Wales using the M4. One section of roadworks has average speed cameras with a speed limit of 40MPH. Not many break the speed limit.
I have been informed that if you change lanes so that after seeing the first camera the next camera sees you in a different lane and cannot work out your average speed. However use this method at your own risk.
 
If it was speed that the powers that be were really interested in lowering, then they'd utilise the electronic warning signs advising you to lower your speed, - but we all know that it's revenue they are after, but only from British drivers, as they can't be bothered to chase the foreign perps.
 

nutty_bag

War Hero
brazenhussy said:
http://www.speedcam.co.uk/game.htm


i got 12 ouf 19!!!!!!!! :???:

13 out of 19. I recognise some of those places, the one into much wenlock is notorious. And yes i did get it. :grin:
 
whitemouse said:
If it was speed that the powers that be were really interested in lowering, then they'd utilise the electronic warning signs advising you to lower your speed, - but we all know that it's revenue they are after, but only from British drivers, as they can't be bothered to chase the foreign perps.

To be fair the attitude varies from area to area, where I live now they do use speed warning signs as well as cameras and good old fashioned hand guns, and they don't hide either and still get plenty of business so many who get caught deserve everything they get.

Where I used to live we had a pedestrian crossing almost in front of our house, opposite a childrens play park and football pitches, until they installed the GATSO we would have at least one emergency stop at that crossing because drivers were speeding every week, after the camera was installed none. Locally after they installed the cmeras there and elsewhere the dead and seriously killed numbers fell and have been continuing to fall and we have has several no children killed years, something that did not happen before, so if properly sited and operated there are positive experiences.

If you don't like cotributing cash don't speed, it's easy realy.
 
16 out of 19.

As an ex-trucker who lost his licence through getting caught doing more than 40mph on a 60mph road (Yes, I'm bitter) I should have done better!
 

slim

War Hero
Maxi_77 said:
whitemouse said:
If it was speed that the powers that be were really interested in lowering, then they'd utilise the electronic warning signs advising you to lower your speed, - but we all know that it's revenue they are after, but only from British drivers, as they can't be bothered to chase the foreign perps.

To be fair the attitude varies from area to area, where I live now they do use speed warning signs as well as cameras and good old fashioned hand guns, and they don't hide either and still get plenty of business so many who get caught deserve everything they get.

Where I used to live we had a pedestrian crossing almost in front of our house, opposite a childrens play park and football pitches, until they installed the GATSO we would have at least one emergency stop at that crossing because drivers were speeding every week, after the camera was installed none. Locally after they installed the cmeras there and elsewhere the dead and seriously killed numbers fell and have been continuing to fall and we have has several no children killed years, something that did not happen before, so if properly sited and operated there are positive experiences.

If you don't like cotributing cash don't speed, it's easy realy.

Agreed if you speed don't complain about the fine/points. Over four years now since my last one and over 22 since the one before that. It would be good to See cameras placed in sensible places though rather than in places where most money can be generated. The camera you mention at the crossing is a good example of a sensible place.
Berkshire cameras are not hidden but are also not well sited. The cameras in Wales are far more numerous than anywhere in England and seem to be increasing in number monthly. In Llangennech there are speed cameras, the locals know the location and slow down for them, speed through the village is excessive but few are caught. Average speed cameras work and they are fair, thats why people do not like them.
 

slim

War Hero
Canaldrifter said:
16 out of 19.

As an ex-trucker who lost his licence through getting caught doing more than 40mph on a 60mph road (Yes, I'm bitter) I should have done better!

CD truckers are the bane of my life. Thank god they are not allowed in the third lane on motorways, the two lane sections on the M4 in Wales is a prime example. I have followed a truck which has pulled out on my attempting to overtake another truck for two or three miles, when he comes to a bit of a hill he realises that he hasn't got the power and then returns to his place behind the truck he was attempting to overtake. Truckers used to be the knights of the road, now they are bully boys with I'm bigger than you so I won't get hurt attitudes.
 
Maxi_77 said:
whitemouse said:
............... If you don't like cotributing cash don't speed, it's easy realy.

Agree with you about not speeding, but I live in the Smoke, where the average speed is about 12mph (on a good day) - and yet they still hand out speeding tickets.....but not on the real culprits - the dreaded cyclists !!!

Touch wood, I've kept within the limits so far....

In response to CD and slim about truckers, these guys, like the bus driver and cabbie in London, seem to think they own the road, maybe it's time the powers that be made it law that trucks stay on the inside lane only. ?

Thoughts anyone ??
 

slim

War Hero
whitemouse said:
Maxi_77 said:
whitemouse said:
............... If you don't like cotributing cash don't speed, it's easy realy.

Agree with you about not speeding, but I live in the Smoke, where the average speed is about 12mph (on a good day) - and yet they still hand out speeding tickets.....but not on the real culprits - the dreaded cyclists !!!

Touch wood, I've kept within the limits so far....

In response to CD and slim about truckers, these guys, like the bus driver and cabbie in London, seem to think they own the road, maybe it's time the powers that be made it law that trucks stay on the inside lane only. ?

Thoughts anyone ??

Interesting point but unfair on truck drivers. Perhaps it would be better if overtaking trucks had to be able to complete the maneuver in a maximum time or distance.
In fact the rule should apply to all, might get some lane discipline installed in motorists then.
 
slim said:
whitemouse said:
Maxi_77 said:
whitemouse said:
............... If you don't like cotributing cash don't speed, it's easy realy.

Agree with you about not speeding, but I live in the Smoke, where the average speed is about 12mph (on a good day) - and yet they still hand out speeding tickets.....but not on the real culprits - the dreaded cyclists !!!

Touch wood, I've kept within the limits so far....

In response to CD and slim about truckers, these guys, like the bus driver and cabbie in London, seem to think they own the road, maybe it's time the powers that be made it law that trucks stay on the inside lane only. ?

Thoughts anyone ??

Interesting point but unfair on truck drivers. Perhaps it would be better if overtaking trucks had to be able to complete the maneuver in a maximum time or distance.
In fact the rule should apply to all, might get some lane discipline installed in motorists then.

I think the only way to intal some lane discipline is to have real police patrols and pull the culprits over. Making rules and not enforcing them does nothing for anyone (TB please take note). The other alternative is to adopt the US scheme of allowing undertaking, works OK there whther it is an 8 lane highway or a two lane (until you get the two trucks with their cruise controls set 0.00001 MPH apart
 

slim

War Hero
I have no trouble with the law being changed so that you are allowed to pass on any lane. All it requires is that the law is also changed to ensure that the person changing lanes is responsible for ensuring that it is safe to do so. I used to drive in Bangkok where this is allowed, no problems.
As for more police on the highway, great, especially if they have the number plate recognition system fitted. Might even get some of the untaxed, uninsured drivers off the road.
 
slim said:
Canaldrifter said:
16 out of 19.

As an ex-trucker who lost his licence through getting caught doing more than 40mph on a 60mph road (Yes, I'm bitter) I should have done better!

CD truckers are the bane of my life. Thank god they are not allowed in the third lane on motorways, the two lane sections on the M4 in Wales is a prime example. I have followed a truck which has pulled out on my attempting to overtake another truck for two or three miles, when he comes to a bit of a hill he realises that he hasn't got the power and then returns to his place behind the truck he was attempting to overtake. Truckers used to be the knights of the road, now they are bully boys with I'm bigger than you so I won't get hurt attitudes.

That is bowlocks!

Whilst I understand where you are coming from, the problems faced by truckers now are ALL caused by four things: Speed limiters, tachographs, cab phones and sat nav.

In the days when truckers (lorrry drivers then) were the knights of the road, all we had to worry about was a log book. Once out on the road we were totally on our own. We had nobody breathing down our necks asking every hour where we are, or why we've stopped, or why we're off route or late, or giving us extra work we can't cope with half way round a delivery route.

It was actually fun in those days, despite noisy, smelly, drafty old non-sleeper cabs, lack of power, ropes and sheets, crap driver's digs and tyres that blew out if you went above 50mph loaded that you had to change yourself in the hard shoulder.

But the money was great, and the camaraderie fantastic. The cafe's were meccas, and the roadside pubs overnight the biggest laughs you would have had. The driver's code (head and tail light flashing as it should be done, a hang-over from hooded headlights during WW2 blackouts) made overtaking easy.

If a lorry broke down on the M6 at 4am in those days, there would be a dozen stopping to see if they could help.

And yes, a truck would slow down or pull in to let a motorist pass, or even stop to help a motorist in distress if he had the time.

In those days, if a trucker was tired, he'd stop for an hour and get his head down, wake up refreshed, and go on his way quite safely. Now, they can't stop without explaining why... and a necessary kip is not a kosher reason to greedy hauliers trying to keep their fleets to impossible time limits on congested roads.

The money isn't too good now either... and quite frankly air conditioned sound-proofed sleeper cabs with stereo music, speed control and soft air suspension are conducive to sending drivers to sleep. Why do you think so many trucks simply run off the road or ram somebody else up the stern? If you knew how many truckers are now driving on uppers, you wouldn't venture out of your side road!

The reason two trucks have trouble overtaking is the speed limiter. But, not to overtake.... to stay behind the slowest truck you come across, is not an option. All modern truckers are expected to press on as fast as the limiter will allow, even if that is 0.0001mph faster than the truck in front.

Did you know that on a single carriageway A road with a 60mph national speed limit, trucks over 7 tonnes are still not allowed to do more than 40mph, even though modern breaking systems are almost as efficient as the family car's? Can you imagine what this limit would do to the A1 north of Berwickin the height of summer if drivers stuck to it?

I was caught when they altered the dynamics of the gatsos so that they would catch any HGV or coach driver doing more than 50mph. I was caught, not by my speed, but by the speed of spray coming off my cab..... in a force 9 coastal gale at 2am.

When they offered me my HGV licence back after a 6 months ban, having, of course, lost my job, I told them where to stuff it. After 30 years of driving, on and off, with an otherwise totally clean licence, it was a great relief.

Anyway.... I'd bought a boat!

Sorry...... but I do feel passionately that most motorists don't begin to understand what modern trucking means.

Remember, if you resent trucks being there.... everything you own came by truck at some point.

Rant over.

Got me goin' there Slim!

Barp barp!!
 
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