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Specialist pay/retention pay question for the white mafia!

djjenks

Midshipman
Okay guys in the white mafia,
can you tell me the full dit on specialist/retention pay when you put your notice in. Can it be done on a case by case basis for personnel who are still serving on operational duties? As I have heard from our oppos in light blue that they do it that way as it is "wrong" that front line loose their specialist pay when on tour/operations just because they have their notice in.
Many thanks.
Djjenks
 
This is from Chapter 27 of BR3 - is it what you are looking for?

"2704

Additional Pay

Different types of additional pay are as follows:


a. Specialist Pay (SP). SP is targeted at areas where there are particular difficulties in recruiting and retention and can be paid on a Continuous Career Basis (CCB), Non-Continuous Basis (NCB) or task basis, depending on the cadre. SP may increase or decrease according to prevailing recruiting and retention conditions. When personnel submit their notice to leave the Service early, the rate of payment reduces by 50% to reflect that the retention aspect of SP has failed. From 1 April 2012, there will be no entitlement to SP following application for Early Termination (PVR). In some branches, for those personnel on extensions of service, break points will be offered which do not incur an SP reduction. SP rates are set annually by the AFPRB.
 
This is from Chapter 27 of BR3 - is it what you are looking for?

"2704

Additional Pay

Different types of additional pay are as follows:


a. Specialist Pay (SP). SP is targeted at areas where there are particular difficulties in recruiting and retention and can be paid on a Continuous Career Basis (CCB), Non-Continuous Basis (NCB) or task basis, depending on the cadre. SP may increase or decrease according to prevailing recruiting and retention conditions. When personnel submit their notice to leave the Service early, the rate of payment reduces by 50% to reflect that the retention aspect of SP has failed. From 1 April 2012, there will be no entitlement to SP following application for Early Termination (PVR). In some branches, for those personnel on extensions of service, break points will be offered which do not incur an SP reduction. SP rates are set annually by the AFPRB.

True dit. "break points" (my bold), known as Optional Exit Points in the RN, are applicable to submariners (see the relevant RNTM). Don't believe what the RAF might tell you!
 
Left you a dit on the other post. The mob does not give a flying **** where you are, they will take the lot. As one admiral said to our SR's mess- "put your hand in a bucket of water, take it out, the hole that is left is how much the mob gives a **** about you when you're gone"Nice Sir, I hope you get a terminal disease you ****.


Needless to say no one spoke after that.
 
Frogman, at least the Admiral was telling the truth, no spin or bullshit like you get on 1SL or 2SL "roadshows".
 
frogman007;1086452As one admiral said to our SR's mess- "put your hand in a bucket of water said:
That is utterly shameful. Despite the fact that the head shed trumpet that people are our most important asset, I find it astounding that one of the 'adults' would say that. Just goes to show that the whole 'Band of Brothers' line is an utter crock of shit. Roll on my time!
 
If you think about it, whilst you are serving you are an asset, once you have gone, time or notice done you are no longer an asset.
 
That is utterly shameful. Despite the fact that the head shed trumpet that people are our most important asset, I find it astounding that one of the 'adults' would say that. Just goes to show that the whole 'Band of Brothers' line is an utter crock of shit. Roll on my time!

It's a fair one though. Let's not kid ourselves, most of us are no Jack Cornwells who'll have stuff named after us, why should the RN care once we've gone? 90% spend their time dripping and loafing, taking and only giving when they really, really have to.

You get a pension, that's enough.
 
It's a fair one though. Let's not kid ourselves, most of us are no Jack Cornwells who'll have stuff named after us, why should the RN care once we've gone? 90% spend their time dripping and loafing, taking and only giving when they really, really have to.

You get a pension, that's enough.

I agree with you to a certain extent- I'm certainly no apologist for that proportion of the Naval Service you describe, nor am I a budding Jack Cornwell! However, I find the institutional hypocracy breathtaking- if that's the way Senior Management feel, then why bother with the badly maintained illusion that we actually give a monkey's about our manpower? It's not so much the sentiment that bothers me, more the inconsistency in the face of the continual PR stream telling us about how appreciated we are and how well we are doing.

I can only hope that the Admiral was as forthright in his exchanges with the Ministers as he was with the SRs mess- although given how the majority (with notable exceptions) have become political lapdogs, then I would suggest that my optimism is misplaced.

As for the pension- you are right, although the question as to whether it will be enough or not will only become apparent post 2015!
 

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