Soldier refusing to return to Afghanistan

[slim]

d. If you have been there and want to go again then you need your lumps feeling.

I'd like you to explain that comment, I know plenty of people willing to go back, it's your duty and there's a job to be done.

I'm willing to go back as it is my duty and there is a job to be done but "willing to go" and "wanting to go" ain't the same thing.

I am sure that a great many of our service personnel are in agreement with you on this one.
Why is it that we can invade Afghanistan to give the people democracy when we cannot do the same for the people of Zimbabwe

 

[Aldis]

Why is it that we can invade Afghanistan to give the people democracy when we cannot do the same for the people of Zimbabwe

We broke Afghanistan. Mugabe broke Zimbabwe.

 

[slim]

Why is it that we can invade Afghanistan to give the people democracy when we cannot do the same for the people of Zimbabwe

We broke Afghanistan[/b]. Mugabe broke Zimbabwe.

How did we break Afghanistan?
We certainly assisted in breaking Zimbabwe by allowing a despot like Magabe to take democracy away from the people

 

[Montigny_La_Palisse]

d. If you have been there and want to go again then you need your lumps feeling.

I'd like you to explain that comment, I know plenty of people willing to go back, it's your duty and there's a job to be done.

I'm willing to go back as it is my duty and there is a job to be done but "willing to go" and "wanting to go" ain't the same thing.

Well I still disagree, there are plenty of people who WANT to go back, as you put it. Many have unfinished business.

 

[angrydoc]

The RAF doctor was Flt Lt Kendall-Smith - if you Google the name you'll get the info.

Regarding this LCpl, my concern is that he is being used by the Stop the War coalition to further their aims. They've changed their tactics recently - the yare now saying they love the Forces so much they want them home so they can't be harmed any more. Quite savvy really - with the media liking us at the mo, it sounds better than Stop the War.

 

[NZ_Bootneck]

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[tommo]

I love it when NZB talks dirty

 

[NZ_Bootneck]

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[tommo]

Pure pornage

 

[Gombear]

I love it when NZB talks dirty

Yes even the mention of Jane's gets me..........Ugghhhh!! :wink:

Er, Jane's what? 8O

 

[3yearstilltx]

WTF is the interweb?

is anyone out there?

 

[Zoidberg]

Light rant

Fair enough. To be fair, though, in the 70s and 80s it was much easier to find people that had served than it is now (national service anyone?). I'd find the quote of someone else saying it on this site, but I don't give enough of a toss. I know 3 people that have served; my uncle did 8 years in the army and served some time in N.I., my aunt's ex-husband is an army officer (still in but haven't seen him in 12 years) and my dad served in the Yugoslav army for his national in the 70s. Great research for a job within the navy.

Since I was 11 I've had teachers and tutors telling me (and other students) that the internet is a much more valuable research tool than a library due to the sheer volume of information that can be turned up in just a few seconds (this is where I prepare for a verbal assault). If you tell me that you wouldn't have utilised the internet as a research tool for yout interview then, frankly, I think you're talking bollocks :roll:

And I do agree that a lot of the bone questions we (including me, obvuously) noobs post can be found with a phone call to an AFCO or a quick search on Google, RR or, god forbid, the Royal Navy website. So, yes, most of us have been spoon fed all this info and still have trouble finding it.

Disclaimer: Tim is no doubt talking bollocks again. :?

 

[sgtpepperband]

Dr. Z: More emotive bollocks from our resident attention-seeker...

Can you stick to the topic of conversation please? No one gives a toss about your family background and why you want to join up. There is a thread for that in "Newbies", I am sure. But right now we're discussing why a soldier is refusing to serve in Afdghanistan - so do please try to keep up or shut up... :roll:

 

[NZ_Bootneck]

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[Scouse_Scribes]

Light rant

Since I was 11 I've had teachers and tutors telling me (and other students) that the internet is a much more valuable research tool than a library due to the sheer volume of information that can be turned up in just a few seconds (this is where I prepare for a verbal assault). If you tell me that you wouldn't have utilised the internet as a research tool for yout interview then, frankly, I think you're talking bollocks :roll:



Disclaimer: Tim is no doubt talking bollocks again. :?

The big issue with the world wide web is that any old shoite can be published on it with no editing or regard to corectness or clarity. At least with a book someone one has gone to the trouble or writing it, getting it edited and finally getting it published.

even though it may have been easier in the 70's and 80's to find someone who had served, the conundrum remains the same as today. I joined in 1986 so for me asking someone about trade choices or service life who had served in the 70's is just as relevant as you guys listening to the crap that I post on here!!!!!!!!

The only reliable source for the info you new chappies require is Ninja or your AFCO. Or as NZB mentioned the library.

 

[slim]

Scouse
Don't forget the best information comes from the man in the pub who once had a mate who had an uncle who's brother knew someone who nearly went into the navy

 

[(granny)]

I love it when NZB talks dirty

Yes even the mention of Jane's gets me..........Ugghhhh!! :wink:

Er, Jane's what? 8O

Daily cartoon character in the Daily Mirror during the war!

 

[stirling2]

Back on topic........the local view

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http://www.thepress.co.uk/news/4520887.York_soldier_could_face_jail_for_Afghan_protest/

 

[alacrity174]

Interesting, so Squaddie has been on the trot for last 2 1/2 years then, why does he now decide he's an objector and not just a deserter, could have slapped his notice in when returning from Afghanistan and never have had to go back, instead he chose to go on the run. Sorry he has lost any small ammount of sympathy he might have got from me at this point.

 

[off_les_aura]

I love it when NZB talks dirty

Yes even the mention of Jane's gets me..........Ugghhhh!! :wink:

Ships of the Royal Navy 1973 by Raymond Blackman. Now THATS a book to get you hard. Ark, Eagle, Bulwark, Albion, Lion and Tiger all present and correct. Invincible, Type 21, Type 22 and Type 42 still just Official drawings in the book at that time. (Goes all misty eyed)