Navy Net - Royal Navy Community

Register a free account today to become a member! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox!

SNP win a majority in scottish parliament.............

JJ1

Midshipman
So there will be a referendum on independence in Scotland at some time in the next 5 years. If the scots were to vote in favour of independence, what would the possible implications be in relation to the royal navy? Especialy with reguards to the V class subs, would the home port have to be relocated. I ask this because from what i've heared the SNP are very anti trident
 

janner

MIA
Book Reviewer
More importantly where does the money come from to run a fully independant Scotland?

You may find that they can afford to be anti nuc. until they have a say in the matter and have to explain to the electorate the financial implications of shutting Faslane down.
 

finknottle

Banned
I doubt very much if the SNP will go ahead with a referendum on splitting up the union, the chances of it being successful are very slim indeed and a no vote would finish Salmond.
 

YouAreHavingALaugh

Lantern Swinger
Simple really,

bring jobs to Guzz for the sub base and jobs to Pompey for the refits and leave the sweatys to their own defence.

Will also mean they will no longer have free prescriptions and university s for themselves and us paying for it.

A winner all round for the English especially.
 

Seaweed

War Hero
Book Reviewer
As we (the English) BOUGHT Scotland in 1707 (when its 'independent' government had bankrupted it), Scotland is our property, and has no right to ponce about pretending it it is entitled to be 'independent'.
 

fishhead

War Hero
The Scots breaking away from the rest of the UK and doing their own thing has a great deal of appeal to me on many levels.Not least that should that happen the labour party would struggle to get a massive majority in the Westminster parliament again and the Scottish MP's will no longer be able to vote for things to happen in England that do not apply north of the border.Bring it on I say.Go on Scots you know you want to.
PS as an afterthought would that mean they would want their loss making banks back again?
 
G

guestm

Guest
Woah, woah, woah.

The Porridge wogs get to vote? It'll be women next. Pah
 

gypquitacorrie

Lantern Swinger
If the SNP do press ahead with the independance question, perhaps the English could also vote at the same time if they want to remain in a union with Scotland. The results from both sides of the border could make for some interesting reading.
 

seafarer1939

War Hero
Does that mean we can stop paying all our cash to them and they will move out of Berwick?and can the new carriers be built on the Tyne and Liverpool or wherever in England.
They go on about North Sea oil so they can have all the oil found in future within the 12 mile limit.
They will be on a loser and they know it.
 
I think the referendum will be held off -- the money from the Westminster Parliament is too attractive and is also needed
for the various perks we get up here like free prescriptions etc etc.The Scots parly has a mandate for tax raising powers if need be
something like 3p in the pound collecting it would be a very expensive exercise and also possibly cause mass migration of the
English and other nationals living and working here!
As for the defence contracts at Rosyth and the base at Faslane they won't be touched --too many people working at them.

North Sea oil has passed its sell by date --still there but needs more investment .The conservatives have just slipped the
operators a tax rise so be ready for a wind down --profit and loss margins getting a serious eyeballing. Norway is not so far away
from the fields and oil transfers need not be brought to Scotland .

Also ------------like as been said--we own the scottish assembly [the correct name for the ''parliament''] Scottish Office still exists
and the Queen is the head of state. So the old Braveheart wish is looking a bit shaky.


G
 

Joe_Crow

War Hero
...like as been said--we own the scottish assembly [the correct name for the ''parliament'']...

MSP = Member of the Scottish Parliament.
AM = Assembly Member (in Wales).
MLA = Member of the Legislative Assembly (in Northern Ireland).

:knob:
 
It would seem a veritable plethora of Grade 'A' :slow: Bawbags are oot & aboot the nicht...would it not....all jogging along nicely....:rolleyes:
 

Ageing_Gracefully

War Hero
Moderator
Review Editor
Book Reviewer
It is good to see all the "unionists" from south of the Border bumping their gums about Scottish Independence. :-D

Couple of points to remember:

a. Cameron will be working "tooth and nail" to keep the Union.
b. The fact that so many of Scots voters gave their vote to SNP does NOT mean they want independence! They just think SNP are doing a better job for them and for Scotland than Labour could do. Thankfully - it has been a long time coming.
c. So many keep going on about English money being paid to Scotland without taking into account the amount of money that moved southwards into the Treasury. Why on earth do you think Tories want to keep Scotland in the Union, when if Scotland gained their independence then the Tories would be the party in power for decades to come?

Have a think about the consequences of any split before taking drastic action.
 
It is good to see all the "unionists" from south of the Border bumping their gums about Scottish Independence. :-D

Couple of points to remember:

a. Cameron will be working "tooth and nail" to keep the Union.
b. The fact that so many of Scots voters gave their vote to SNP does NOT mean they want independence! They just think SNP are doing a better job for them and for Scotland than Labour could do. Thankfully - it has been a long time coming.
c. So many keep going on about English money being paid to Scotland without taking into account the amount of money that moved southwards into the Treasury. Why on earth do you think Tories want to keep Scotland in the Union, when if Scotland gained their independence then the Tories would be the party in power for decades to come?

Have a think about the consequences of any split before taking drastic action.

What he says.
 

Rumrat

War Hero
It is good to see all the "unionists" from south of the Border bumping their gums about Scottish Independence. :-D

Couple of points to remember:

a. Cameron will be working "tooth and nail" to keep the Union.
b. The fact that so many of Scots voters gave their vote to SNP does NOT mean they want independence! They just think SNP are doing a better job for them and for Scotland than Labour could do. Thankfully - it has been a long time coming.
c. So many keep going on about English money being paid to Scotland without taking into account the amount of money that moved southwards into the Treasury. Why on earth do you think Tories want to keep Scotland in the Union, when if Scotland gained their independence then the Tories would be the party in power for decades to come?

Have a think about the consequences of any split before taking drastic action.

Argumentative mode OFF, please explain where all this southbound money is coming from, because if you are saying "Oil Revenue" then I would resonate to the sharpe intake of breath.
 

SONAR-BENDER

War Hero
If it means we hear less of the awful bagpipe and see less silly frocks then so be it!

Sussex - you know MUCH more than me about men in silly frocks, especially in Brighton! :slow:

Personally, I sometimes wear a kilt (falda [skirt] Escoses here in Spain, but not frock) when going to formal functions, as I used to in the UK and even in the Mess whilst serving. :blob4:

Some bagpipe music is good............. OK, evocative then! :boogie:
 

Ageing_Gracefully

War Hero
Moderator
Review Editor
Book Reviewer
Argumentative mode OFF, please explain where all this southbound money is coming from, because if you are saying "Oil Revenue" then I would resonate to the sharpe intake of breath.

Two that come to mind are taxes on spirits for all the whisky that is exported - don't forget if we break away, you lot will have to pay Scotland duty for our whisky :) : and also taxes and income from the financial sector, which is not solely concerned with RBS and BofS. Billions move through Edinburgh's financial institutions.

There is of course, also the tax which is raised by the tourism industry which finds its way south the the Chancellor plus many many other areas of tax generation. There are huge amounts of paper and bandwidth generated in the detailing of the various monies but I can't be arrsed looking for and linking to.

Instead of raising yet more questions, why don't you just try answering the ones raised in my first post.

TTFN

A-G

P.S. There are huge amounts of oil and gas off the Scottish coast in the Atlantic - I don't suppose the Chancellor would like to get his hands on the revenue from that. Added to this is the people saying the oil and gas was shutting down because of the taxes imposed by Cameron - what if Salmond reduced those taxes to the oil companies? Still shut down?
 
Last edited:
Thread starter Similar threads Forum Replies Date
dapperdunn SNP Arrogance? Current Affairs 25
drewfester SNP demands Scottish fisheries have veto on excercises. Current Affairs 21
W The SNP The Gash Barge 17
trelawney126 SNP Defence Policy takes shape The Gash Barge 0
soleil SNP Press Release: UK Threat to Navy's Presence in Scotland Bases / Shore Est 12
soleil Scotsman: "SNP will let English keep military bases" Bases / Shore Est 10
NotmeChief Britains future depends on the SNP. The Gash Barge 14
S Vote SNP Current Affairs 22
M SNP, Scotland and the Navy The Fleet 75
MoD_RSS Projects to heat homes through disused mines and faster offshore wind farm construction win government backing MoD News 0
MoD_RSS Q Developments win Homes England masterplanning award for planting housing on Surrey garden centre site MoD News 0
MoD_RSS Northern Irish firm doubles turnover thanks to Dubai export win MoD News 0
MoD_RSS It’s a national effort to win coronavirus fight, we all have crucial part to play MoD News 0
MoD_RSS DBS Digital win Best Use of Customer Insight Award MoD News 0
MoD_RSS LLWR apprentices show business flair to win Challenge MoD News 0
MoD_RSS Win for British farm as cabbages allowed into Malaysia MoD News 0
MoD_RSS NDA group enjoys a big WiN at awards ceremony MoD News 0
MoD_RSS Community projects across north compete to win Pacers MoD News 0
MoD_RSS Chance to ‘win while you save’ with new credit union prize account MoD News 0
MoD_RSS UK-made Freddie Mercury bust £1m win for Queen charity MoD News 0
MoD_RSS £20 million export win for Liverpool supercar manufacturer MoD News 0
MoD_RSS Sussex soap company soaks up £100k Japanese export win MoD News 0
MoD_RSS Press release: Out of this world ideas win funding in space competition MoD News 0
MoD_RSS Speech: A World To Win MoD News 0
MoD_RSS News story: Nuclear employees WiN big at national diversity conference MoD News 0
MoD_RSS Press release: Innovative digital projects to improve public services win funding MoD News 0
MoD_RSS Press release: Magic beans and buzzing coffee win international science award MoD News 0
MoD_RSS Press release: York graduates win £25,000 national video game competition MoD News 0
Simon - Quest Magazine Win a limited edition signed print from Jacqueline Hurley’s War Poppy Collection Competitions 0
MoD_RSS News story: Women winning battles: Recreating the Wrens unit which helped win the War MoD News 0
soleil Forces Network News: "Former Army Captain MP Blames 'Defence Cuts' For Labour Win In Military City" Bases / Shore Est 5
MoD_RSS Speech: How Global Britain is helping to win the struggle against Islamist terror MoD News 0
MoD_RSS News story: Armed Forces' double win at UK Race Equality Awards MoD News 0
MoD_RSS Speech: Thinking to win MoD News 0
BillyNoMates Win. Blue Jokes 0
Bad CO Win A Set of Body Armour Worth £500 Competitions 8
Ageing_Gracefully Win a trip to Venice Competitions 0
soleil S. Echo: "Nuclear Submarines To Be Based In Sunderland If Scots Win Independence" Submariners 7
S Navy may win at Twickers next year Royal Naval Reserve (RNR) 18
Mongke's_Fist Competition: Win an Apple iPad mini (Rumration approved) Competitions 9
Mongke's_Fist Competition: Win an Apple iPad mini (Rumration approved) Charity 4
BFRS Configuring, Managing and Maintaining Win. Server The Afterlife - Resettlement and Jobs 0
P Carriers win F35 RAF Battle Current Affairs 12
trelawney126 No Win No Fee Lawyers hit a new Low Current Affairs 9
F How to win friends and upset people. Current Affairs 11
MoD_RSS IN PICTURES: Ice patrol ship photos win Royal Navy annual awards Current Affairs 0
Naval_Families_Federation Win Tickets to Scott’s Last Expedition – At the Natural History Museum, London Current Affairs 0
MoD_RSS Armed Forces rowers win gold at World Cup Current Affairs 0
finknottle Aung San Suu Kyi's election win Current Affairs 9
Bad CO Xmas Give Away - Win a £50 Amazon Gift Voucher Competitions 15
Similar threads


















































Latest Threads

New Posts

Top