come_the_day
Lantern Swinger
Just a few hours yet, but how long till he gets the chop?
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Sir Richard Dannatt
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Lantern Swinger
watch_and_shoot
War Hero
Im still not sure whether he will be axed or resign his commission (under pressure of course). Is it 1100hrs he's due to give a statement?
I actually agree with most of his comments on Iraq and our presence there. Besides, dont we need to start bringing troops home so we have enough manpower to deploy to N Korea!! 8O :? :lol:
I actually agree with most of his comments on Iraq and our presence there. Besides, dont we need to start bringing troops home so we have enough manpower to deploy to N Korea!! 8O :? :lol:
Squirrel
Lantern Swinger
I think it's really refreshing that we have a man at the top who has the balls to say what everyone is thinking. I would be surprised to see him removed as that would leave too much of a bad taste in everyone's mouth. He's standing up for all of us by telling it how it is, and to be fair, I think that if Bliar does try to get rid of him, then all of us in HMF have a reciprocal duty to stand up for him.
watch_and_shoot
War Hero
Maxi_77 said:
I agree with you there mate.
Total respect for this man - At last we have a senior figure in the Forces, who has the balls to stand up and tell it like it is. The PM must be flapping big time at the moment.
I honestly believe that if we are to make a success of Op Herrick, we need to start pulling out of Iraq soon. We cant sustain the current level of operations for both much longer, as we just dont have the manpower/equipment/resources to do so.
Lets just hope Sir Richards comments make the powers that be sit up, take note and act accordingly.....................or we may find him in the woods after a suicide attempt (sounds familiar) :wink:
asst_dep_to_dep_asst
War Hero
Just heard him on the radio backpedalling........
BTW, Admiral Boyce left his post early because he wouldn't kow-tow to Buff and Bliar, so the good General is setting no precedent here.
BTW, Admiral Boyce left his post early because he wouldn't kow-tow to Buff and Bliar, so the good General is setting no precedent here.
watch_and_shoot
War Hero
asst_dep_to_dep_asst said:
Not on the news I just heard - he was defending his statement!!
Passed-over_Loggie
War Hero
At last, a man of principle. How so unlike his predecessor! I wasn't giving it my full attention this morning but he said something of the order that if the current tempo is maintained for years, the Army will be permanently damaged. As the Navy and the Air Force are being robbed to fund the Army, that doesn't bode well for the rest of us. More importantly, the Country will be permanently damaged. Now that really is old style, Clem Attlee, Labour. Call me paranoid if you want.
I first read what he said in the Times last night - very interesting. I was very impressed that he had the guts to say what needed to be said. I am disappointed that he appears to be backtracking. Whilst I can understand that this may be expedient, it gets ministers off the hook - it simply means that the political pressure in Parliament will ebb away by the end of next week at the outside - and the status quo will remain. Sometimes it is worth making real sacrifices for the greater good of one's comrades, or am I just being old fashioned?
On another front, it's amazing what a bit of Ministerial pressure can do... just mention quetly that the guarenteed peerage will not be forthcoming if he has to, er, resign...
I still think he should have focussed on Iraq and not got sidetracked on his religious-moral values tangent. If it is necessary to discredit him, it will be easy enough simply by twisting his personal opinions against multiculturalism and in favour of monoculturalism and implied intolerance - to undermine his stance on Iraq. It might be popular with the Daily Mail - but the Daily Mail do not represent Britain as a whole, even if they think they do.
On another front, it's amazing what a bit of Ministerial pressure can do... just mention quetly that the guarenteed peerage will not be forthcoming if he has to, er, resign...
I still think he should have focussed on Iraq and not got sidetracked on his religious-moral values tangent. If it is necessary to discredit him, it will be easy enough simply by twisting his personal opinions against multiculturalism and in favour of monoculturalism and implied intolerance - to undermine his stance on Iraq. It might be popular with the Daily Mail - but the Daily Mail do not represent Britain as a whole, even if they think they do.
SILVER_FOX
War Hero
An interesting turn of events and great to see someone at the top that is willing to stand up and be counted. What he says goes against Government and MOD policy so it is unlikely that he will be able to stay in post for long. As to whether the rest of the Joint Chiefs would "resign" with him - not a bloody chance. When you get that close to the top job, you're going to keep pushing to go all the way.
What I can't help worrying about is the effect this will have on the boys and girls in the sand. I mean, you hear that the big boss says that we're not helping and you still see people being killed and wounded - how is that going to feel? Would you still feel like putting your best foot forward and getting on with the job?
SF
What I can't help worrying about is the effect this will have on the boys and girls in the sand. I mean, you hear that the big boss says that we're not helping and you still see people being killed and wounded - how is that going to feel? Would you still feel like putting your best foot forward and getting on with the job?
SF
