Single Living Accommodation, its negative effects

clanky

War Hero
Didnt the army experience some high profile bullying cases when they first started using single rooms back in he 80s?
 

Jimmy_Green

War Hero
The accomodation in Northwood, which I left at the very beginning of January this year, was not as good as the SLA I stayed in in Nelson, nor nowhere near as good as the SLA I'm in in Chicksands and not as good as what I saw in March in Drake. Even so it was still single occupancy rooms which for someone who enjoys their privacy and personal space is important. I left Northwood just as they were about to tear down the prefabs so I don't know what they've been replaced with.

As for those who hark on about it being better in multi-occupancy messes, it's like saying "I'm living in a four bedroom detached house but I'd rather live in a two up two down terrace with an outside toilet, like in the old days". Utter rubbish. I've also never met anybody who, after going RA, has said they would rather live onboard.

The new SLA is often referred to as Travelodge accomodation but as to being built to the same standards I'm not so sure. Whilst the room I'm in at Chicksands is big, a little bit bigger than the SLA at both Nelson & Drake, the quality of the build leaves a little to be desired with many cracks appearing in the plasterwork. Not good really for buildings that have been up for only a year or two.
 

ctfairway

Lantern Swinger
It was always the plan to replace the Rollalong SLA at Northwood when the PFI contract was finalised and the whole site was redeveloped. If Rollalong hadnt been built in 2001, the JR accommodation would still, 6 years down the line, be the same leaking rotting old messdecks that were in use before Rollalong was built. Instead for the past 6 years, JR's at Northwood have had smart, warm, dry single ensuite rooms.
 
onMy accom at Cottesmore is the worst i have ever seen, even though its a single cabin the standard is lower than the the keel.The heads and bathrooms are in a real state and what is crazy is that they have just installed sat tv sockets in every room!! At what cost? Would rather have a sink, mirror or at least a table!!
 

catwalk

Badgeman
Wafu Warrior you need to get back where you belong apart from Sultan most places have some SLAM.

I do beleive its good to have better accommodation but for young sailors its not good to be stuck in a cabin maybe in a different block to your mates.

This was highlighted at the Deepct Enquiry and as i believe the recommendations that all trainees should be sharing and not left alone to remove loneliness, risk of self harm and suicide.

Within about 5 months of our SLAM junior rates blocks completion the Captain stated that he is very concerned about the isolation the junior rates maybe suffering locked away playing play stations and not speaking to anyone until they turn to the next day.
 

TwistedFireStarter

Lantern Swinger
ctfairway said:
It was always the plan to replace the Rollalong SLA at Northwood when the PFI contract was finalised and the whole site was redeveloped. If Rollalong hadnt been built in 2001, the JR accommodation would still, 6 years down the line, be the same leaking rotting old messdecks that were in use before Rollalong was built. Instead for the past 6 years, JR's at Northwood have had smart, warm, dry single ensuite rooms.

Stand fast the bootie detachment :w00t:
 

Jimmy_Green

War Hero
catwalk said:
This was highlighted at the Deepct Enquiry and as i believe the recommendations that all trainees should be sharing and not left alone to remove loneliness, risk of self harm and suicide.

This might be right for trainees as they start bonding and working together, but for anyone who has been in the mob for a number of years why should they be forced to live with someone they might not choose to associate with? As people spend longer in the mob they pick and choose who they want to associate with and when. What is the fixation of NOT allowing mature adults their privacy? How do you think civvies cope when they leave home and start living in a place of their own? They don't all get married or live four to a room. Do you think they all end up lonely and contemplate suicide? I don't. I think they ring up their mates and make arrangement to socialise just as we do. Don't be so naive to believe that by sharing accomodation, matelots will sit around playing uckers or cards all the time. They'll be heading off down the bar or out on the town on the piss. You don't have to live 4 to a room to do that. As I get older I want to be left on my own and don't want to go out on the piss all the time.

catwalk said:
the Captain stated that he is very concerned about the isolation the junior rates maybe suffering locked away playing play stations and not speaking to anyone until they turn to the next day.

Who says they are suffering? If they want to sit on their playstations and enjoy doing that, it's their choice. If they're not causing harm or annoying anyone else why shouldn't they do what they want to do in their own time? Why does th CO feel compelled to micro-manage the aspects of everybody's lives, does he not have a life of his own?
 

Jimmy_Green

War Hero
wafu_warrior said:
onI agree, and these blocks have all JR's in single cabins with no common room what so ever.

The accomodation in Northwood did have TV rooms and people did use them as and when they wanted. They also suffered from time to time because of the mess that was left for others to clean up. At least in SLA you are responsible for your own space.

sgtpepperband said:
If you don't like the accommodation on board, live RA... :roll:

At Northwood it was too fcuking expensive to live RA as is the case near Chicksands. At Chix the accom is good, it's (thankfully) quieter than I'm used to before, the gym's just a couple of minutes walk away and the fodder isn't too bad.
 
onsgtpepperband: That's a very weak reply, i own my own house and live with my wife and kids. However drafted out of area so expect some to live in a slight bit of comfort . Or sgtpepperband should i buy 2 houses? Are you offering to give me an intrest free mortgage?
 

catwalk

Badgeman
The Captain is concerned about the welfare of his sailors, he is not about to change things but is highlighting the difficulties of SLAM, where every individual floor has a key access. you cannot contact your mate on another floor as you have no access to their floor and no phone signal. This is not civy street where you may live alone but normally near family where you can go if your lonely or bored.

I totally agree that those older deserve good accommodation but teaching our young sailors the ability to look after your oppos and socialise is an important part of the Royal Navy.
 

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