Should've sold it to Pounds!

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  1. Buying stuff back from the scrappers has been going on for years. I recall that the Air Force have played that game as well. It always amazed me that the Residual Assets Manager bought the stuff for peanuts and then charged near "rate book" prices to "sell" it back.
  2. Pompey Council would only complain that scrap yards shouldn't look like scrap yards and we don't want the nice Ferry passengers seeing any dirty, nasty industry.
  3. Seaweed

    Seaweed War Hero Book Reviewer

    Way back Pounds had a destroyer in scrap that had SCRAP painted on her side in huge letters because people kept bothering the Navy about an HM ship being in such a poor shape.
  4. Typical Mail reporting, - "- with HMS Illustrious, which can carry only helicopters, as the RN's sole vessel capable of carrying aircraft".

    I must have missed the bit where we sold off Albion, Bulwark, Ocean, and the remaining destroyers and frigates.

  5. ...............So you've got an old car (it could be a classic), the manufacturer built it to last about 25 years but you decided to keep it going for 30+ years anyway. You need some replacement parts after an accident (could be a fire) but the "main dealer" has not got the parts on the shelf and the manufacturer has stopped production of that model - so using a bit of initiative you go to the breakers which, fortunately, still has the bits you need. Of course, you could have given someone a drawing, a couple of million quid and said please make us one of these bespoke items!

    Not sure it really constitutes a "scandal"
  6. So you have two "classic" cars and decide to scrap one, you then find you need parts for the remaining one and find they are only available from the car you scrapped, scandal no, stupidity yes.
  7. Better to use parts from the scrappy than leave the old girl parked up. Best to ignore the Mail as well, it's a shite paper at the best of times.
  8. Seadog

    Seadog War Hero Moderator

    In the days before digital porn, Xbox and Faceache; MEs, WEs and the occasional dabber would conduct daring night raids of derelict, fenced off ships awaiting disposal in Pompey Dockyard. Mission, to acquire stuff that may come in handy at a later date. Fecking spooky when raiders from two different ships bumped into each other on the same target.

    'Come in handy' has never been an official logistics concept and is even frowned upon by influential LSOs as an unofficial reserve, which for a Service that bangs on about initiative and personal responsibility is pretty arrse.
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  9. Purple_twiglet

    Purple_twiglet War Hero Moderator

    So the MOD used some initiative and found the part it needed rather than order a new one, which given the ship is due to pay off this year seems fairly sensible to me. Struggling to spot the problem here?
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  10. Seadog. Ah, the Chief's "come in handy" stash; NSKO's nightmare. I could always see merit in it, so long as the Store wasn't genuinely LIFEX (but even that could get you home, depending on the function). The big bind was when it was shed loads of Current items that other ships were known to be OPDEF for.
  11. What use would a ship that could carry fixed wing aircraft be too us?
  12. Seadog

    Seadog War Hero Moderator

    PT, the MoD's initiative is commendable. Having the liberated bit already ferreted away on board or in a layapart store would have been initiative - if the opportunity ever existed - of the highest order on the part of a maintainer/operator. Although that kind of initiative is probably now, the stuff of interviews without coffee if caught.

    Then again, at the risk of aligning myself with the ranks of the PSOF, there was a time when Artificers and Mechanicians could fix or more importantly, manufacture on board almost anything that was required. Manufacturing is something I'm not much good at but the blokes who could/can were awesome. :worship:

    I feel an afternoon of The Cruel Sea coming on.

    POL, when it was SOP, the section heads kept their come in handy stuff ( however acquired ) in their part of ship and the Loggies didn't need to know. Indeed, a bummer if an optimistic STOREROB to DILSUP revealed that Kilroy had already visited.
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  13. Done many a trip to the fire ground/scrap compound for sea harrier and Canberra spares Also ripped a crashed GR7 to bits to provide a nice little inventory.

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  14. sgtpepperband

    sgtpepperband War Hero Moderator Book Reviewer

    Merged :thumbleft:
  15. During the mid 80s, the stores people had a brain fart - they went through all the onboard stores and removed 'excess'. So, if for instance there were supposed to be 3 spares, they took one away etc. Fine. Unless of course a bit of kit was crap and all 3 items were actually needed during a patrol. My how the skipper laughed when I told him we had no stores left! He laughed even more when (as a highly trained Mech, as outlined above!) I could fix the XXX but it would mean breaking the YYY. 'Fine' he said, 'but if they both end up broken you're in the shit!'

    Ah, Araldite and masking tape, not to mention some devious model-making skills!

    Also, the fun of going on your buddy's boat and stealing, sorry, STORE-ROBBING a bit of kit just before sailing!
  16. Brain fart indeed. When advice was sought from the clanky and sparky Ships fairies in Foxhill, though, it was enhanced to full blown diarrhea.
  17. Fcuk me Canberra spares how old are you ?? Still after some Swordfish bits and pieces??
  18. I'm on there somewhere! 1992 :)

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