Should Prisoners have rights?

#1
In my opinion no.
They gave up there rights when they broke the law.
Some prisoners have done unspeakable crimes against the public but are looked after like kings.
It is sickening hearing about how prisoners get play-stations, games, porn magazines, 1st class food, etc and there are hard working decent people who cannot afford those sort of things, but are paying for scum like that to get it out of their taxes.
Give them nothing but a room with 3 other prisoners and a bucket, if they protest send in the heavies and beat it out of them.
There will be plenty of people including myself who will gladly be in the front line beating some respect out of people in prison.
Being Ex Forces, it is sickening that a lot of our lads are living in under rated accommodation when convicted criminals get everything they want, where is the justice?
We defend our good nation, sometimes with our lives, they give nothing and a lot of them take innocent lives with there crimes.
Make a crime a punishment not a reward. :evil:
 
#4
Lamri said:
But they have got rights BH.

The right to remain silent,
the right to legal representation
........

:)
bloody legal aid no doubt - at whose expense???????? or am i being stereotypical with that remark?! :twisted:
 
#5
Not at all mate, but the law has to be seen to be fair, doesn't it?

What annoys me more is the legal representation that uses technicalities to get a known offender off the hook, even when the evidence condemns the offender.
 

wet_blobby

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#6
The punishment should fit the crime...

Peodophiles....death

Murder...death

Cop Killing....death

Terrorism...death

Rape.....castration and hard labour

Crying rape....hard labour

Muggings....castration and 15 years

Burglary....castration and 12 years

ABH...a fcuking good kicking and 5 years

GBH...a fcuking good kicking and 5 years.

Cash for honours....public humiliation, **** penetration by a rampant bull followed by public flogging and hanged slowly by the bollox till death.
 
#8
wet_blobby said:
The punishment should fit the crime...

Peodophiles....death

Murder...death

Cop Killing....death

Terrorism...death

Rape.....castration and hard labour

Crying rape....hard labour

Muggings....castration and 15 years

Burglary....castration and 12 years

ABH...a fcuking good kicking and 5 years

GBH...a fcuking good kicking and 5 years.

Cash for honours....public humiliation, **** penetration by a rampant bull followed by public flogging and hanged slowly by the bollox till death.

total agreement there babe xxBH
 
#10
You getting soft in your old age Blobs, coming out all bleeding liberal on us for shame.

BH. The principle behind legal aid is sound, its the practice that is wrong.

As for the conditions prisoners live in, for fcuks sake, shove them in 3Q on a batch 1 22 and watch the shit hit the fan, the hand wringing PC/human rights lot would be up in arms.
 
#12
Prisoners rights are guaranteed by law.
However I can't see why that includes TV, PS2, Gym membership, en suite cells and all the other comforts. Let them keep their rights but make prison a punishment rather than a holiday. Any pay they earn when contracted to outside companies should be confiscated to pay towards costs of keeping them in prison.
 
#14
wet_blobby said:
The punishment should fit the crime...

Peodophiles....death

Murder...death

Cop Killing....death

Terrorism...death

Rape.....castration and hard labour

Crying rape....hard labour

Muggings....castration and 15 years

Burglary....castration and 12 years

ABH...a fcuking good kicking and 5 years

GBH...a fcuking good kicking and 5 years.

Cash for honours....public humiliation, **** penetration by a rampant bull followed by public flogging and hanged slowly by the bollox till death.

Firm but fair…
 
#15
WB, may i make a few minor alterations/additions....

Peodophiles....Locked in room with mothers union
Murder...death
Cop Killing....death
Terrorism...death by own weapon
Rape.....sex change then locked in prison for all male prisoners to use
Crying rape....hard labour & full disclosure of name
Muggings....castration and 15 years
Burglary....castration and 12 years
ABH...a fcuking good kicking and 5 years
GBH...a fcuking good kicking and 5 years.
Cash for honours....public humiliation, **** penetration by a rampant bull followed by public flogging and hanged slowly by the bollox till death
Drug Dealers - Publically forced to take all their drugs......
 
#16
I'm quite ambivilant about the treatment of prisoners, although I'm rather sure that the current system is wrong. I notice that the general consensus on this thread so far believes that the purpose of HM Prisons is to punish, rather than rehabilitate offenders. The current powers-that-be officially believes quite the opposite. I however, believe that the purpose of HM Prisons should be to both punish the inmates for their crimes AND rehabilitate them into civilised society.

As part of the rehabilitation process, inmates require humane treatment. If they are treated as animals then they will only remain so when they are released. Therefore they must be shown kindness. The kindness of food, shelter and clothing.

I am all in favour for learning opportunities in prisons. If a burglar is interred for five years, and during that five years is taught how to carve wood, then there is a chance that when he is released he might become an honest carpenter.

Obviously some crimes will never be forgiven by society, and these criminals will be required to serve either a life sentence or be delivered the death penalty. Such examples would be Murder, rape and unacceptable sexual deviances (paedophilia, necrophilia, etc).
 
#18
I believe that every prison term should be purely punishment for whatever the crime was.
I also believe that before a convict is allowed back into society, there should be a period of rehabilitation tacked on to the end of the sentence. The length of this period should depend on factors like type of crime, behaviour whilst inside (bad behaviour = less courses available but extended sentence) and total length of initial sentence. This rehabilitation period should last anywhere between 6 months and 2 years and should include both educational/tradecraft courses as well as courses in integration into society.

I believe that time inside under sentence should be PURELY for punishment purposes. AFTER the debt to society is repaid, THEN start learning a trade etc ready for release.

I don't believe in someone getting sentenced to 10 years being able to walk the streets after 4 or 5 years. I don't want to see them on the streets for 10 bloody years AT LEAST!!
 
#19
Peter said:
I'm quite ambivilant about the treatment of prisoners, although I'm rather sure that the current system is wrong. I notice that the general consensus on this thread so far believes that the purpose of HM Prisons is to punish, rather than rehabilitate offenders. The current powers-that-be officially believes quite the opposite. I however, believe that the purpose of HM Prisons should be to both punish the inmates for their crimes AND rehabilitate them into civilised society.

As part of the rehabilitation process, inmates require humane treatment. If they are treated as animals then they will only remain so when they are released. Therefore they must be shown kindness. The kindness of food, shelter and clothing.

I am all in favour for learning opportunities in prisons. If a burglar is interred for five years, and during that five years is taught how to carve wood, then there is a chance that when he is released he might become an honest carpenter.

Obviously some crimes will never be forgiven by society, and these criminals will be required to serve either a life sentence or be delivered the death penalty. Such examples would be Murder, rape and unacceptable sexual deviances (paedophilia, necrophilia, etc).
The Chinese government also believe that the reason for prisons is to rehabilitate offenders. However after three terms in prison the Chinese government understands that not everyone wants to be rehabilitated. They then use a method which ensures that these people are no longer pose a threat to the Chinese public.
And at no cost to the taxpayer.
 
#20
slim said:
Peter said:
I'm quite ambivilant about the treatment of prisoners, although I'm rather sure that the current system is wrong. I notice that the general consensus on this thread so far believes that the purpose of HM Prisons is to punish, rather than rehabilitate offenders. The current powers-that-be officially believes quite the opposite. I however, believe that the purpose of HM Prisons should be to both punish the inmates for their crimes AND rehabilitate them into civilised society.

As part of the rehabilitation process, inmates require humane treatment. If they are treated as animals then they will only remain so when they are released. Therefore they must be shown kindness. The kindness of food, shelter and clothing.

I am all in favour for learning opportunities in prisons. If a burglar is interred for five years, and during that five years is taught how to carve wood, then there is a chance that when he is released he might become an honest carpenter.

Obviously some crimes will never be forgiven by society, and these criminals will be required to serve either a life sentence or be delivered the death penalty. Such examples would be Murder, rape and unacceptable sexual deviances (paedophilia, necrophilia, etc).
The Chinese government also believe that the reason for prisons is to rehabilitate offenders. However after three terms in prison the Chinese government understands that not everyone wants to be rehabilitated. They then use a method which ensures that these people are no longer pose a threat to the Chinese public.
And at no cost to the taxpayer.
..and that method is Slim...???
 

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