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  1. Today i was able to go to Shotley and have a gander of what remains of HMS Ganges.it was a bit heartwrending to see the state of whats left.At least the Mast looked a wee bit cared for.I was suprised that the maingates were not a grand and imposing as i would have imagined.It looked like they sold off one block outside the camp for posh flats.At least it still looks like an old MOD building.I couldnt really see too much from the fence,but i saw a huge Tower painted green perched on top of what looked like an old Gun Emplacement.Any ideas what it was?
     
  2. I thought it was a water tower...i go sailing from Levington and pass Shotley regularly!
     
  3. I did kind of look like a water tower,but it had an unusual pointy roof on it.I passed a few pubs on the way One was called The Boot,i just wondered how many matelots had had a bevvy in there over the years.One question,how did the new intakes get to Ganges?Was there a rail line and station or were they bussed in from Ipswich?I must admit i had a similar feeling to the one i had on approaching the gates of Raleigh,odd consdering the state of the place.I suppose part of the places "Spirit" still lingers on.
     
  4. It is still used as a navigation mark when doing sailing courses, and just checked on one of my charts and it is definately a water tower.
     
  5. Thanks for that.Looks rather quaint i thought.
     
  6. The building with the green roof sounds like the water tower which also used to be the signal tower, I think. I've posted a picture of it in my gallery I took in 2002, link below. (Note: I used an infra-red filter to take this - so it might look a bit odd).

    http://www.rumration.co.uk/cpgn2/coppermine/displayimage/meta=lastup/cat=0/pos=6.html

    The old School Block is here

    http://www.rumration.co.uk/cpgn2/coppermine/displayimage/meta=lastup/cat=0/pos=2.html

    I've also posted some other pics I took at Shotley in 2002. I went in with a friend who was an inmate there in 1967 - and he loved it! 8O Mind you, he was a JMEM! :lol:

    Steve/
     
  7. Thats the one steve!!!Are those fences on the bottom right the Tennis courts?
     
  8. Probably. Not forgetting the barbed wire, electric fence, watchtowers manned 24/7 with machine guns... but those all went when the Navy moved out and the last trainees escaped :wink:
     
  9. I remember seeing them man the mast on Blue Peter in the 60's and very nearly gave up joining the mob!That mast is bloody high!
     
  10. The photo's not very clear. There was a Zepellyn raid and a bomb landed on that spot. A little closer and it would demolished the mast and saved countless boys the misery/joy of scrambling aloft. I thought it was the famed golden rivet when I spotted it :wink:
     
  11. 143 foot to the summit and the Devil's Elbow was 80ft up. The bit I find scary is the thought of having to climb half upside-down round the Elbow. It must have been terrifying for those (like I used to be) scared of hights! I don't know about just having a Button Boy's Medal. They ought to have had a Devil's Elbow Medal!
     
  12. Will you lot stop trying to make me cry. Andy you should have said you were going no doubt you would of had plenty of willing guides (me included). How could they do it to the place?
    No doubt some one will get it in the neck for starting us TROGS off again, please note it was not us this time.
    By the way if I remember right the tennis courts were just off the Quarterdeck/wardroom heading down towards the F.H &C.
     
  13. I didn't actually appreciate how high it actually was - looking up from the base isn't too bad - when I went up "Big Ben" with Nutty we found that the first room we stopped at was 80ft off the deck. Looked out of the window. Bloody hell - that was high up! It was disconcerting just gazing out from behind the glass!
     
  14. Here are a load more of my pics... Thanks to Andy's help with the ImageCave site...

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  15. And some from a friend who was there in 1967-68... JMEM Arnold Wilkes

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  16. Nice phots Always. I've never been up to shotley so it makes good viewing to see what the set up was like. Kind of makes the RALEIGH of 1986 pale into insignificance by comparison.

    SF
     
  17. I'm a bit apprehensive about revisiting the place now - as every time I visit more is missing. On my first visit (Mast Rededication Ceremony back in the 80s I think) most of it was still there. Explored Gym no.1, Stores, the Workshops, jogged up Laundry Hill (hehehe), walked down the famous Faith, Hope & Charity steps, saw the famous dhobeying sinks and pondered on having to scrub clothes on that cold concrete floor on a wintry day, explored various messes, prised messdeck blocks off the decks as souveners. Wish I'd taken more stuff - the Signal School was still intact then - perhaps a rack of coat hooks from the corridor or one of the lights... They still had the "fallout shelters" too. Eerie place but fascinating bit of naval heritage allowed to disintegrate - like so much of our heritage. It was interesting visiting the places I've got photos for from the 1920-30s. Although I didn't go there I still feel a great sense of loss. If this was the USA it would have been preserved. But we just destroy our past, unless it's a stately home! We preserve the history of the wealthy and powerful but not of the people who were/are the backbone of this country. :cry:

    I'll be adding more (historical photos) later and some documents to this thread. Plus extracts from some Ganges Mags in my possession (all from the 1930s).

    The Naval Historical Library in London used to hold a complete set of the Shotley and later Ganges Magazines going back to the 1910s. When they relocated they binned the lot!!! I only found out because I wanted to look at some issues I'd explored earlier and was told they'd been binned when they moved from Brompton Road to Admiralty Arch. They are now in Whitehall. What an attitude to history! :evil: :evil: :evil:
     
  18. This might be of interest...

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  19. Maybe there should be an effort to have a RR exped to Ganges and see if we cant get access to the site for a day.Any ideas who would need to be approached re access?
     

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