Ships Badges..

#1
Evenin' all..

Does anybody know of a good place where i can find some decent pics of RN Ships badges ? it's for my Sea Cadet Unit and i've trawled the world wide webby but no luck :(

any help much appreciated :thumright:
 
#4
Hello Chaz
Please note that the correct term is ships BADGES, not crests, and always has been since 1919 when the current official system of Royal Naval Heraldry was established.

Hello Hodge,
What ships badges designs are you seeking?
 
#5
Hello Forth
Please note that for those of us that either HAVE served, or are, in fact STILL serving the correct term is ships CREST not BADGE. A Badge is something sewn onto your No1 Uniform at certain intervals of your career.
Anyone who comes on here without having served and spouts off about 1919 and heraldry really does think about moving out of mummy and daddys house and looking for a girlfriend. Or a life ;)
mmmkay there Dorothy?

Oh, and "Hodge". See above. They aren't the same thing.
Chaz was trying to help and you pair have come across as a pair of cocks.
Nice one and welcome to you both :pukel:
 
#6
Hello Lamri,
You are wrong.
If YOU are serving or have served, check DCIs/ Navy lists.
A Ships Badges Comittee is listed, never a Ships Crests Comittee.
Your other comments should be placed where the sun never shines.
 
#8
forth60 said:
Hello Lamri,
You are wrong.
If YOU are serving or have served, check DCIs/ Navy lists.
A Ships Badges Comittee is listed, never a Ships Crests Comittee.
Your other comments should be placed where the sun never shines.
Oh I'm sorry, did you think it was up for discussion?
Effing civvies :roll:
 
#9
Dear Lamri,
Dont want to get into a slagging match but I was in uniform when you were still in nappies.
Civvy? Foxtrot Oscar.
Just to remind you, the guy was asking about sourcing Ships Badges...
 
#10
forth60Slathering in another thread about not joining up said:
Regretted since 1962 not signing on in the RN,
Yes, effing Civvy.
May I remind YOU that the Sea Cadet is looking for photos of Ships CRESTS, as called such by MATELOTS.
 
#11
OK Lamri,
I see you are not in MOD mode.
Point 1. Navy List 1995 (the nearest one to hand at this time in the morning)
Page 265 - Ships Names and BADGES Comittee -
Representative Members are :-
Commodore Naval Ship Acceptance
The Head of the Naval Historical Branch
Surrey Herald of Arms Extraordinary
Representatives of DNOT, DNAW, DST, DN Plans, CNSO and DRP (W) (Secretary)
Point 2. Check your facts before you go off on one.
Point 3. After checking your profile, I note that you are also, as you as you piquantly put it, an effing civvy.
Never mind, we both did our stint but why the attitude?
 
#13
Thank you alhucoll, have just seen that Lamri tried to say this last night but some civvy goon was adament they're badges not crests... as Lamri correctly said we sow badges on our uniform, be it No's 1 or 4 etc!
 
#14
I can recommend 'Badges & Battle Honours of HM Ships' by Lt Cdr K. V. Burns DSM RN (Maritime Books 1986). It contains lots of good photos, details and histories of ships and even describes how the designs of many ships' badges were based on family and civic crests and arms. Amazon has several copies available starting at £5 (link).
 
#15
Lamri you are wrong Mate.
From the RN's own website,
Today, every ship, submarine, shore establishment and Naval Air Squadron has its own unique badge. A ship's badge, not crest as they are often incorrectly referred to, and their name represents a piece of history in that it is not the first time that the badge or name would have appeared on a Royal Navy ship or submarine. For as long as there has been a navy ships have been named after other ships that previously existed.
Link supplied, http://www.royal-navy.mod.uk/server/show/nav.3650

RoofRat
 

Asst_Ed

Lantern Swinger
#16
Badge it is indeed, as the NHB tell us. If we ever write "crest" there's a barrage of e-mails/letters/phone calls from irate readers.

We have most badges from the past 20 years as hi-res jpegs/tifs thanks to the phot section at Tipner (now in the dockyard). They made a CD rom full of them about 10 years ago very useful.

If you can find a copy, the definitive list of badges can be found in T P Stopford's two volume Admiralty Ship's Badges 1919-94
 
#17
Well, even if officially the ships thingy is a "badge", I've always known it as the ships "crest" and will always call it that. I think the majority of matelots who are serving and have served will refer to it as a "crest".

Worst and best crest/badge anyone?

I'll start with the Marlboroughs as the best, something about the Wyvern that says "don't Fcuk with us!"

Al

Edited for being Monglike in thoughts...................
 
#20
Thanks for the help guys, i've always called them a badge because that is what the SCC tell us to call them but i suppose most of you matelots are right calling them crests...
 
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