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  1. Seaweed

    Seaweed War Hero Book Reviewer

    Some ship names that I think won't be used again:



    Bacchante - HMS Bagshanty and labelled by Their Modships F69

    Tiderace (RFA) - rhymed with Liberace

    What others would our 21st century gallant tars not want on their cap tally?
  2. HMS Gay Wanderer?
  3. Ninja_Stoker

    Ninja_Stoker War Hero Moderator

    HMS Blade?
  4. You all forgot HMS Pansy!!!!

    Renamed about 20 days after launch!
  5. Think it was TideRace as in TideReach TideSurge etc !!
  6. HMS Beaver.
  7. HMS Broke.
  8. Strange there was never another HOOD?
  9. silverfox

    silverfox War Hero Moderator Book Reviewer

    Now there was a rumour going round when we commissioned London that the last 3 T22 BIIs were going to be called Bloodhound, Boudicea and Bastarde... we found the badges for the first 2 had already been included in those PR posters with all the crests in, but Bastarde would have surely been the best ship to have been in....
  10. For those who remember the 50/60s, the FPBs of the GAY class - GAY CHARGER, GAY CAVALIER, and a few more: can you imagine the stampede to the recruiting offices if the first of the T45s was to be called the GAY HUSSAR ? Mind boggling !!
  11. There was a pub near Brighton that used to be called the Gay Cavalier or something similar.
    It changed its name 'rapidemente' and is now something completely forgettable.
  12. I was on Bacchante for a while and we used to hang around with RFA Bacchus....
    The god of wine and his handmaidens..not a bad draft!
  13. Theres a reason why there was never an HMS Portsmouth but I can't remember it at the moment.
  14. Never will be a submarine called HMS Portsmouth......... Shit floats.
  15. Apparently a vessel with the name struck their Colours while under fire with out firing a shot in return.I have trawled the net for references but so far have drawn a blank as to the full story.
  16. That rings a bell, think you hit the nail on the head. Thanks
  17. Anyone have any insight on HMS Cleopatra? Was it just plain numpty on the part of the naming board that Cleopatra bonked Roman Emperors and never set foot in Greece, let alone formed part of a Greek legend?
  18. The earliest ref i can find for the Cleo was a 32 gun,built in 1779 at Bristol.1781 Capt. George Murray,fought with Vice Ad. Hyde Parker at the action with the Dutch off the Dogger Bank on 5 August.She was finally broken up in 1814 after a busy career.

    1793 Capt. A.J. Ball. 1795 Capt. Charles Penrose, 6/95, 1796 Capt. Charles Rowley. She brought Vice Ad. Murray to England at the close of 1795 and subsequently formed part of the Western squadron, under Sir Edward Pellew. Capt. Rowley captured the French corvette AURORE in April 1796.
    1797 Capt. Israel Pellew, 9/97, America. She arrived at Halifax in April 1801 after a long cruise. For four three days and nights she had been ashore on the island of Abaco, one of the Bahamas, losing her false keel and damaging her bottom, and in order to get her off all the guns and part of the ballast had to be thrown overboard.
    The boats of CLEOPATRA and ANDROMACHE carried out an attack on a Spanish convoy of 30 vessels protected by 3 gunboats in the Bay of Levita in Cuba. The enemy had notice of their coming and the boats came under a destructive fire of grape and langrage which killed Lieut. TAYLOR, who was shot through the heart, and three seamen, one of whom had his head shot off. One midshipman and six seamen were wounded but they all recovered. Several of the enemy were boarded but only one gunboat could be brought out.
    1803 under repair at Woolwich. 1805 Capt. Sir Robert Lawrie from ANDROMACHE. On Saturday 16 April 1805, in squally weather N.W. of the Bahamas, CLEOPATRA gave chase to a large frigate. They exchanged a few shots from bow and stern chasers until, on the following afternoon, the other ship, now wearing French colours, luffed close to the wind and gave them two broadsides from less than half a cable's distance. CLEOPATRA replied and an action commenced in which they both did considerable damage to each others rigging. When CLEOPATRA shot away the enemy's main-topsail yard and tried to cross her bow, although her own main and spring stays were shot away and the main mast was only supported by the storm-staysail stay, an unfortunate shot hit the wheel and rendered it and the rudder immovable. The enemy availed himself of their ungovernable situation and ran their head and bowsprit over CLEOPATRA's quarter deck. The French attemped to board under heavy musket fire and were driven back but Capt. LAWRIE was forced to surrender to a second attack, CLEOPATRA being a complete wreck with not a spar standing except for the mizen mast.
    The enemy frigate was the VILLE DE MILAN,46, twice the size of CLEOPATRA, with French 18-pounders on the main deck and 8's on the quarter deck and forecastle. She was commanded by Capt. de Vaisseau Reynard and Capt. de Fregate Gillet; the former was killed by CLEOPATRA's last shot and the latter badly wounded. She had sailed from L'Orient on 1 August 1804 with troops for Martinique and, since she had dispatches for France on board, had orders to avoid action.
    CLEOPATRA mustered only 199 at quarters being short of 10 able seamen, half the number of the enemy. She lost 22 killed or died of wounds; 18 dangerously wounded, including Lieut. (act.) Charles Mitchell, Mr Belt, master, and Mr M'Carthy, boatswain, and 18, including the senior lieutenant, Mr William Balfour, slightly wounded. At noon on Saturday 23 February a sail was sighted by LEANDER, Capt. Talbot. The weather was hazy with squalls of rain and it was not until 3 o'clock came up with two frigates, both under jury masts. LEANDER fired one of her main deck guns at the smaller whereupon she hauled down her colours and hove to, identifying herself as CLEOPATRA. The other frigate, the VILLE DE MILAN, surrendered without a shot being fired. She was taken into the Royal Navy under the same name. 1805 Capt. John Wight, Halifax. After serving for a considerable time on the North America station he was obliged to return through ill health which had affected his liver. (In 1825 he was still actively employed as Commissioner for Roads and Bridges at Teignmouth.)
    1807 Capt. R. Simpson, Halifax.
    1808 Capt. Samuel John Brooke-Petchell, then aged 27, was promoted into CLEOPATRA by Sir John Warren at Halifax and he was employed on the blockade of Basse-Terre, Guadeloupe. On 22 January 18O9 he gave chase to a ship which he later made out to be a French frigate. The enemy hauled in close to the shore and anchored under a small battery south of Point Noir with cables made fast to trees. CLEOPATRA came in as close as the shoaling water permitted and they exchanged fire until a shot from CLEOPATRA carried away the enemy's outside spring and he swung into shore with his head towards her. For fourty minutes CLEOPATRA engaged an enemy which could never bring more than half a broadside to bear, and when the wind allowed JASON and HAZARD to come up and join in the fight, the French hauled down their colours. She proved to be French national frigate TOPAZE, armed with fourty- eight 18-, 24- and 36-pounder guns. Her commander was Capt. Lahalle and she had a complement of 330 men. She had sailed from Brest 47 days earlier to take 100 troops and 1100 barrels of flour to Cayenne but had been obliged to push on to Guadeloupe by superior British forces.
    CLEOPATRA lost Alexander M'Cloud and John Simms, killed, and John Francis, wounded. The first lieutenant, William Simpson, was promoted for his part in the action, the other lieutenants were Messrs. Puckingham and Lambert. Sir Alexander Cochrane offered Capt. Pechell command of the prize as a token of his appreciation. The French losses 12 killed and 14 wounded although a number were believed to have drowned when they jumped overboard after the surrender.
    A few days later CLEOPATRA joined the expedition against Martinique where she and AEOLUS with the RECRUIT sloop were sent by Sir Alexander COCHRANE to the upper part of Fort Royal Bay to cut off the enemy's retreat. When they were seen, the French destroyed their frigate, the AMPHITRITE, and the rest of the shipping in the harbour.
    Capt. Pechell spent nine months from October 181O in command of GUERRIERE,42, before returning to CLEOPATRA in the following July. Meanwhile Capt. Charles John Austen, 1O/1O, commanded CLEOPATRA and returned home with her in the summer of 1811. She was then employed off Cherbourg, in the North Sea and then at Gibraltar where Capt. Pechell
    carried out a survey of the harbour at Ceuta.
    1813 Capt. Charles Gill, 12/12, Barbados. She captured the Spanish ship CUOLA, laden with molasses and rum, on 13 January 1814 and sent her into Antigua. CLEOPATRA returned home to be paid off for the last time in July 1814.

    It seems she may have just been named after the Historical figure of the Egyptian Queen.
  19. Ninja_Stoker

    Ninja_Stoker War Hero Moderator

    Sooner or later you'll be told by someone that has a lot of spare time, that the last HMS Pompey either had a mutiny, ran aground, surrendered, got captured, awarded an ASBO, given a bespoke suit, or some other thing that has already happened to the crew of HMS Cornwall recently, happened to her too, but before telly was invented.
  20. Too slow Ninja!LOL

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