Senior Upper Yardman: Question

Squirrel

Lantern Swinger
Well actually two questions.
Firstly, if one were to sit and pass the AIB, then successfully complete one's time at BRNC, what's the score with your pay, assuming you were SUY. I understand you can't take a pay drop so is it a case of marking time or do you actually take a pay increase?
Secondly, as I understand it (and I may be mistaken) SR's who are commissioned assume the rank of S/Lt on commissioning and WO's assume the rank of Lt. What is the score now with WO2?
Before anyone asks why I don't just ask my DO/UPO, I'm on Post Det leave and will be for a few weeks longer yet, I was thinking of putting myself forward as a CW candidate but there are a few unanswered questions I have before I decide.

Thanks in advace for any help
 
1) you will mark time at your rate of pay until your "Officers" rate catches up.

2) Substantive WO1 only will become at Lt o/c BRNC.

Hope this helps!
 

TheCommunicator

Lantern Swinger
As a SUY CW candidate I can advise that alfred is incorrect on both!
SUY officers have their own pay scale which has at least 15 incremental levels. Your time as a rating determines the level on which you start.

I as a higher pay band PO, with 13 years service (at the time I looked at the figures a couple of years ago) was looking at an approximately £25 a day pay rise on commissioning.

Regarding rank on commissioning, all SUY officers commence BRNC as Lieutenant, with ex WO1 receiving additional seniority.

If you have any questions feel free to PM me outside this forum, letting me know yr exact circumstances (rate, branch, educational qualifications etc) and I can let you know the specifics of the route you'd have to take
 

wolf26

Newbie
The Communicator is not quite correct. SUY enter BRNC as Sub Lieutenants with the exception of former WO1 or SUY's entering the TM or IS specialisation. You are then promoted to Lieutenant the day after passing out. A DCI published in 2004 gives all the details.
As far as pay is concerned the Armed Forces Pay Review contains a table for Officer Commissioned from the Ranks. This will give you your starting pay at BRNC.
 

SILVER_FOX

War Hero
Communicator has got it spot on. WRT leaving BRNC as a Lt, the regs changed a couple a years back (2003?) and, allowing for past experience, now means that all SUYs become Lt's o/c BRNC. WO1's get a little extra for their endeavours. Think this might also apply to WO2's in some way.

Re the pay - bloomin marvelous. Nice initial hike plus 15 annual increments with normal annual pay rises to boot. Makes it all worthwhile.
 
Right, I was incorrect re the SUY seniority - all SUY will enter BRNC as a Lt, with substantive or selected WO1's gaining an extra years seniority to recognise their experience. My bad.

Pay - 8748 states that SUYs will enter the Officer Corps on an Initial Commision, and makes no note regarding your pay situation. From speaking to the UYs I know, they remained on a "mark time" rate of pay (with an annual increment and any appropriate pay rises) until their Officer pay band had caught up. There is no reason (in my mind) to think that this doesn't apply to SUYs. The "Officers promoted from the Ranks" pay table more than likely is applicable to the Army and those listed at the note, who are not on Officer T&Cs but on their own T&Cs.

What we really need is a Wtr to take charge and give us the dit according to the Pay Regs!
 

Squirrel

Lantern Swinger
That's great alfred (pardon the pun)
Not being in a position to check up just yet, I'm grateful for your effort. Thanks very much shippers.
 
Thread starter Similar threads Forum Replies Date
A Senior Upper Yardman Joining Up - Royal Navy Recruiting 63
B Senior Upper Yardsmen (SUY) Course 2016 UPO/Careers Office 16
MoD_RSS Latest ESFA senior staff moves MoD News 0
MoD_RSS Senior civil servant and former lecturer in medical statistics appointed to Joint Biosecurity Centre MoD News 0
MoD_RSS Helping develop an approach around senior clinicians’ pensions MoD News 0
MoD_RSS Senior Enforcement Advisor at UK Medicines Regulator warns against purchasing fake or unlicensed coronavirus (COVID-19) medicines MoD News 0
C Application referred to senior medical officer. Joining Up - Royal Navy Recruiting 6
MoD_RSS ESFA senior staff moves MoD News 0
MoD_RSS Senior Traffic Commissioner issues a Statutory Document in response to the COVID-19 outbreak MoD News 0
S Medical reviewed by senior medical officer Joining the Royal Navy 2
soleil PlymouthLive: "Senior Service Remembers The 'Sailors of Auschwitz' On Holocaust Memorial Day" History 2
MoD_RSS UK brings senior climate delegation to Raisina Dialogue, New Delhi MoD News 0
MoD_RSS Health and Social Care staff and senior leaders among those praised in New Year Honours MoD News 0
MoD_RSS Senior clinicians' pensions: letters between DHSC and NHS England MoD News 0
MoD_RSS Senior Traffic Commissioner outlines proposals to help operators with no deal EU exit MoD News 0
MoD_RSS Welcome new MHRA senior appointments MoD News 0
MoD_RSS Stuart Hudson to fill new Senior Director role MoD News 0
MoD_RSS Senior clinicians’ pensions: government asks for views on new proposals MoD News 0
MoD_RSS NHS pensions for senior clinicians: new changes announced to improve care MoD News 0
MoD_RSS Changes to NHS pensions for senior clinicians: have your say MoD News 0
MoD_RSS Regional forum for Senior Responsible Officers established in the Midlands region MoD News 0
MoD_RSS Homes England Senior Independent Director Appointed MoD News 0
MoD_RSS Press release: Reappointment to the Review Body on Senior Salaries MoD News 0
MoD_RSS News story: PM appoints new members of Senior Salaries Review Body MoD News 0
MoD_RSS Press release: Attorney General appoints new Senior Treasury Counsel MoD News 0
MoD_RSS News story: Defence Secretary and apprentices meet military’s most senior female officer on International Women’s Day MoD News 0
MoD_RSS News story: Home Secretary meets senior police officers to discuss violent crime MoD News 0
MoD_RSS Press release: UK Ambassador to Afghanistan appointed as next NATO Senior Civilian Representative MoD News 0
MoD_RSS News story: WO1 Glenn Haughton OBE has been appointed as the first Senior Enlisted Advisor to the Chiefs of Staff Committee (SEAC) MoD News 0
MoD_RSS Press release: Senior Traffic Commissioner reminds transport managers and operators that they need to keep up to date MoD News 0
MoD_RSS News story: PM appoints new member of Senior Salaries Review Body MoD News 0
MoD_RSS News story: General Sir James Everard appointed most senior UK officer in NATO MoD News 0
N Senior Service Medical Officer Review Joining Up - Royal Navy Recruiting 3
MoD_RSS Press release: Senior officials' meeting on the situation in Brussels: 24 March 2016 MoD News 0
MoD_RSS Press release: COBR meeting of senior officials on the situation in Brussels: 22 March 2016 MoD News 0
ToonPatriot Senior Rate or Officer? Joining Up - Royal Navy Recruiting 73
MoD_RSS News story: French military officers addressed by senior UK politicians and military generals MoD News 0
MoD_RSS News story: The Secretary of State announces new Senior Appointments in the Armed Services MoD News 0
Sgt Jobsearch Senior Test Solutions Engineer - Bedford - £41,500 to £46,500 The Afterlife - Resettlement and Jobs 0
BFRS Senior Avionics Engineer - Bristol The Afterlife - Resettlement and Jobs 0
Sgt Jobsearch Senior Maintenance Engineer - Huddersfield - Circa £30K DOE The Afterlife - Resettlement and Jobs 0
BFRS Senior Research Engineer - Thermal Energy Solutions The Afterlife - Resettlement and Jobs 0
Sgt Jobsearch Senior Project Manager - Wigan - £85,000 The Afterlife - Resettlement and Jobs 0
Sgt Jobsearch Senior Health & Safety Project Lead - Wyton - £47,000 + Benefits The Afterlife - Resettlement and Jobs 0
Sgt Jobsearch Senior Project Manager - Beith / Rosyth - £40,000 + Benefits The Afterlife - Resettlement and Jobs 0
Sgt Jobsearch Senior Engineer (Power Stations) - Ascension Island - £40,000 - £45,000 (Tax Free) The Afterlife - Resettlement and Jobs 0
BFRS PLANNING ENGINEER / SENIOR PLANNING ENGINEER The Afterlife - Resettlement and Jobs 0
BFRS Planning Engineer / Senior Planning Engineer - £48,851 pa The Afterlife - Resettlement and Jobs 0
Sgt Jobsearch Senior Design Engineer - Salisbury - £25,000 to £28,000 The Afterlife - Resettlement and Jobs 0
Sgt Jobsearch Senior Operator (Continental Shifts) - Motherwell - £24K - £30K Including Shift Allowance The Afterlife - Resettlement and Jobs 0
Similar threads


















































Top