Security Clearance

#1
Now then,

Just out of curiosity, how long have people been waiting for their security clearances to come through? I passed my interview 7 weeks ago (17th July) and i'm at Raleigh on 25th Nov.

I apologise if this has been covered in a previous thread. I'm just getting a bit impatient thats all, I just want the damn thing to come thorugh so i can sleep a bit better. I'm tempted to give the DVA a bell to be honest.

Also, has anyone had any problems with theirs by any chance. I've got a funny feeling that i'm gonna have to fill out an FQ form but i'm just seeing if anyone else has had any negative experiences.

Any help or feedback is much appreciated.


Cheers
 
#2
Hi mate, what you joining as and when did you get your date?

I'm still waiting on my security check and my fitness test was around 9 weeks ago.
 

Ninja_Stoker

War Hero
Moderator
#3
Now then, 'appen.

Security Clearance (SC) normally takes 8 weeks from submission to DVA, there's no point chasing it until you know for sure that both your referees have completed & returned their references.

(Ringing DVA is a nightmare... "press 1 for this, stand on one leg, count to 100 in primary numbers, press2, etc., etc). If your SC is taking over this period, your AFCO may email a hastener on your behalf.

If you need to complete a FQ, make sure you send it by return post. Typically this can add another 3-4 weeks. If you have any unresolved[/b] CCJs, unresolved defaulted loan payments or are an undicharged bankrupt, you may not gain SC.

You may be granted a Security waiver if the basic checks (financial & criminal convictions) are cleared, subject to the Directorate of Naval Recruiting authorising it, if your SC is not granted & you have less than a month before you join.

Edited to include the bold items, upon advice from "on high".
 

OSLO

War Hero
#4
SCs are taking 3 months. DVs even longer. Check your referees have completed and returned any paperwork. No point in you calling the DVA - you might as well talk to a wall as to call them.
 
#5
NS - thanks very much for the info, i'll try and be patient then. Its just rely gettin to me the waiting thats all.

Creddly - I'm going in as Warfare Specialist (Submariner). I passed my interview on July 17th and I only had to wait a week before my AFCO rang me up with my date for November
 
#6
So your security clearance passed within 1 week? My god that's fast!

One thing that's confusing me though... you say you had your interview, then a week later your date, but where were the fitness and medical? In between that week?

So it looks like those of us joining the black messengers of death have to wait 4 - 5 months from passing security clearance -- which means I'm looking at January at the very minimum.
 
#7
It is all RED TAPE comes when it comes, don't need a lot in training your not going any place, be patiant.

:thumright: :thumright: :thumright:
 

Ninja_Stoker

War Hero
Moderator
#9
willmuse said:
Hey, I've got my date for raleigh. November the 4th

does that mean i've passed my SC????

Thanks
Nope! (You may have though, ask your Careers Adviser.)

For those joining the service first time around, you may be allocated a provisional entry date before SC is granted.

For those joining the service 2nd time around (Creddly, ex-Army) you cannot be allocated a provisional entry date before SC is granted & you have written approval from the Directorate of Naval Recruiting that you may re-enter military service.
 
#12
Credders,

Sorry about the confusion there mate. I passed my final selection interview and medical on the 17th July which was a Tuesday, I had my PJFT on the Saturday the 21st and then my AFCO rang during that following week with a provisional joining date of 25th Nov.

I must praise my AFCO at this point because the CPO that was dealing with me worked really hard to get everything done for me. He was really efficient and basically said that if I wanted to get moving as sson as poss, he would do what he could to get me the earliest possible joining date.

I've just got to wait until November and for my SC to come through.
 

Ninja_Stoker

War Hero
Moderator
#13
NorthernSub said:
I must praise my AFCO at this point because the CPO that was dealing with me worked really hard to get everything done for me.
Music to my ears!!!

On behalf of the AFCO (assuming it isn't 'my' AFCO), a big thank you to you for highlighting the fact that we do aim to please, contrary to the conspiracy theorists.

(I just need a Mod to confirm that NorthernSub's IP address is different to mine & that I didn't log on under a different user name to heap praise on our organisation!)
 
#14
You're very welcome NS. I won't name specific people but my AFCO is Sheffield and they were superb. They were great before I went for my AIB but as I narrowly missed out on that, my age meant I could only apply again as a rating.

They knew how committed I was to applying, and how soon I wanted to get moving, so they helped me by getting everything through in double quick time.

I honestly can't thank them enough, they were very professional and efficient throughout and its been a pleasure dealing with them. They say first impressions count and I now know i've made the right career choice.
 

Gazza82

Lantern Swinger
#15
Ninja_Stoker said:
willmuse said:
Hey, I've got my date for raleigh. November the 4th

does that mean i've passed my SC????

Thanks
Nope! (You may have though, ask your Careers Adviser.)

For those joining the service first time around, you may be allocated a provisional entry date before SC is granted.

For those joining the service 2nd time around (Creddly, ex-Army) you cannot be allocated a provisional entry date before SC is granted & you have written approval from the Directorate of Naval Recruiting that you may re-enter military service.
Hey NS I passed my SC when I was going to join for the Army last year how will that affect my SC with the RN now?
 

Ninja_Stoker

War Hero
Moderator
#17
Gazza82 said:
Hey NS I passed my SC when I was going to join for the Army last year how will that affect my SC with the RN now?
Good question, well asked.

Assuming you had a full SC for the army (some Army trades only have a Basic Check), it's valid for 12 months from either leaving the service or, if you didn't actually join, 12 months from the day it was granted.

If you fall within the "12 months" criteria, the AFCO can apply to DVA to transfer it to your new trade, but the expiry date remains the same.

In other words, unless you physically re-join the Services within 12 months of the initial granting of your SC, you'll need to make a new application to renew your SC.
 
#18
Karma said:
Ninja_Stoker said:
Apologies, I thought I had already told you that bit. I must be getting old.
I was pretty convinced you had as well.
Nope, that information didn't pass these eyes.

I do know you said the Army have to give consent, but nothing about having to pass the security before you get your date because I thought that applied to everyone, not just me.
 
#19
creddly said:
Karma said:
Ninja_Stoker said:
Apologies, I thought I had already told you that bit. I must be getting old.
I was pretty convinced you had as well.
Nope, that information didn't pass these eyes.
I can't be bothered digging the reference up, but I certainly remembered that specific answer. To the extent that I nearly typed it up again myself bnut then though f*ckit, he's been told that before.
 

Ninja_Stoker

War Hero
Moderator
#20
creddly said:
Karma said:
Ninja_Stoker said:
Apologies, I thought I had already told you that bit. I must be getting old.
I was pretty convinced you had as well.
Nope, that information didn't pass these eyes.

I do know you said the Army have to give consent, but nothing about having to pass the security before you get your date because I thought that applied to everyone, not just me.
Taken from the thread ""For Those Who Are Interested" on 11/07/2007

creddly said:
Ninja_Stoker said:
Hiya Credders, well done mate.
I’ve changed my mind again now and I will ring them then!

Ninja_Stoker said:
To get things moving swiftly:

Make sure the AFCO has received
1.) 4 X passport photos (with you name on the back!)
2.) A copy of your valid passport
3.) Your fully completed Security Questionnaire (persons with previous military service require security clearance BEFORE they can get a provisional entry date- this can take a couple of months or more after you submit a correctly completed form- if it takes longer- you've made a mistake somewhere along the way.)
4.) Both your referees have sent their references back to the AFCO.
5.) Any paperwork sent to you MUST be returned completed correctly when received.

Good luck mate, not too long now!!!
1) – What are these for mate? The passport photos?
2) – Lol sent off for it, just waiting for it to come back now, that and the NHS card.
3) – I’ve already sent that off mate and all the previous military service material! And it will DEFINITELY take longer for me because my step-mother used to be a Ukrainian, both independently and as part of the Soviet Union. She’s naturalised now but apparently it’ll still take longer!

...OMG it’s hitting me now – but I’m getting excited instead of nervous – presumably a good thing!
Just glad it's not my memory that's on the blink!
 

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