seaman specialist

Gazza82

Lantern Swinger
#1
Heya there.
I'm hoping to join as a seaman specialist if I pass my PJFT in 2 weeks and I was just curious if anyone knows if you can choose a type of ship that you can work on?
I think I may have asked this before but couldn't find it in this section on the forum.
:thanks:
 
#2
Yup you asked the question before Chose Ship

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#3
Gazza82 said:
I'm hoping to join as a seaman specialist if I pass my PJFT in 2 weeks and I was just curious if anyone knows if you can choose a type of ship that you can work on?
You can state a preference for type of ship and Base Port. However, whether you get your first preference will depend on manning requirements at the time that you are drafted.
 

Gazza82

Lantern Swinger
#4
TattooDog said:
Gazza82 said:
I'm hoping to join as a seaman specialist if I pass my PJFT in 2 weeks and I was just curious if anyone knows if you can choose a type of ship that you can work on?
You can state a preference for type of ship and Base Port. However, whether you get your first preference will depend on manning requirements at the time that you are drafted.
Thanks tattooDog :thanks: :thumright:
Also thanks to mikh
 
#5
Just as appoint of reference, I requested:

a. 1st shore preference Scotland, place to avoid Plymouth - Got Yeovilton
b. 1st Sea Preference 42 in Scotland (Rosyth), got a 22 in Plymouth


At the time of me getting Yeovilton, My mate who requested Heron ad wanted to avoid Scotland guess what, and we were not allowed to swap draft as it was our first out of the school.

Admittedly with the 22 I had done a favour for drafty for which in return I wanted an early sea draft, so it is not beyond the realms of possibility if I had not 'volunteered to help them out' I might have got the 42 4 or 5 months later

like tattoDog says it is all down to manning requirements, oh and what kind of mood the guys in centurion (do they still do drafting from there) are when they are allocating pegs to holes
 
#6
Gazza82 said:
Heya there.
I'm hoping to join as a seaman specialist if I pass my PJFT in 2 weeks and I was just curious if anyone knows if you can choose a type of ship that you can work on?
I think I may have asked this before but couldn't find it in this section on the forum.
:thanks:
Honest answer in 30 years I got 1 ONE preference. But Things may have changed since I left. I doubt it, but it could have. Human rights and all that.

Remain Rigidly flexible

PINCH
 
#7
Five of my eight last drafts were exactly what I wanted, requested by C240 or by liasing with drafty direct. The others weren't too bad either. Can't say I've had a draft to a ship or base port that I absolutely did not want. 1st pref has always been Guzz and always preferred T22s. I've always wanted to avoid T42s/carriers and have been lucky enough so to do. My drafts to T23s and FIGS I've just accepted and got on with the job.
 

sgtpepperband

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Book Reviewer
#8
Obviously I endorse and encourage the procedure to complete your drafting preference details on JPA in accordance with current instructions, but you'd be pleasantly surprised how flexile Drafty can be if you contact them directly. Be prepared to volunteer at short notice for a non-preference draft in order to get the job you want (i.e. scratch their back and they'll scratch yours).

:wink:
 
#9
sgtpepperband said:
Obviously I endorse and encourage the procedure to complete your drafting preference details on JPA in accordance with current instructions, but you'd be pleasantly surprised how flexile Drafty can be if you contact them directly. Be prepared to volunteer at short notice for a non-preference draft in order to get the job you want (i.e. scratch their back and they'll scratch yours).

:wink:
My Heart has been warmed. Stg. It's nice to know that drafty is now part of the same team.
:thumright: :thumright: :thumright:

Can I come back Please
 

Gazza82

Lantern Swinger
#10
mikh said:
Just as appoint of reference, I requested:

a. 1st shore preference Scotland, place to avoid Plymouth - Got Yeovilton
b. 1st Sea Preference 42 in Scotland (Rosyth), got a 22 in Plymouth
How do you know where the ships are based? or do you choose the shore completly independant from the ship?
 

sgtpepperband

War Hero
Moderator
Book Reviewer
#11
PINCH said:
sgtpepperband said:
Obviously I endorse and encourage the procedure to complete your drafting preference details on JPA in accordance with current instructions, but you'd be pleasantly surprised how flexile Drafty can be if you contact them directly. Be prepared to volunteer at short notice for a non-preference draft in order to get the job you want (i.e. scratch their back and they'll scratch yours).

:wink:
My Heart has been warmed. Stg. It's nice to know that drafty is now part of the same team.
:thumright: :thumright: :thumright:

Can I come back Please
Obviously I can only speak from personal experience, but that experience has taught me that - like most things in life - you have to put out to get what you want! :wink:
 

sgtpepperband

War Hero
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Book Reviewer
#12
Gazza82 said:
mikh said:
Just as appoint of reference, I requested:

a. 1st shore preference Scotland, place to avoid Plymouth - Got Yeovilton
b. 1st Sea Preference 42 in Scotland (Rosyth), got a 22 in Plymouth
How do you know where the ships are based? or do you choose the shore completly independant from the ship?
On JPA you will have the option to select by choice what base port, ship or area you prefer; there is a choice between what ship or establishment you prefer (e.g. ship based in Portsmouth, but want to be shore based near your home town, say Scotland).

However these choices are dependent on your branch; JPA will advise accordingly.

As for where ships are based, a very rough list is as follows (mistakes are mine):

Major Surface Combatants
1.1 Invincible-class Aircraft carriers (3) Portsmouth
1.2 Type 42 destroyers (8) Portsmouth
1.3 Type 23 frigates (13) Portsmouth & Plymouth
1.4 Type 22 frigates (4) Plymouth
2 Amphibious Forces
2.1 Landing Platform Helicopter (1) Plymouth
2.2 Albion-class landing platform docks (2) Plymouth
3 Mine Warfare Forces
3.1 Sandown-class mine countermeasures vessels (8) Portsmouth/Faslane (might be mistaken)
3.2 Hunt-class mine countermeasures vessels (8) Portsmouth/Faslane (might be mistaken)
4 Patrol Vessels
4.1 Antarctic patrol ship (1) Portsmouth (sometimes!)
4.2 River-class patrol vessels (4) Portsmouth (sometimes!)
4.3 Castle-class patrol vessels (1) Falklands (decommissioning)
4.4 Archer or P2000-class fast patrol boats (14) Portsmouth/various
4.5 Scimitar-class fast patrol boats (Gibraltar Squadron) (2) Gibraltar
4.6 Archer or P2000-class fast patrol boats (Cyprus Squadron) (2) Cyprus
5 Survey Vessels
5.1 Ocean survey vessel (1) Plymouth (sometimes!)
5.2 Coastal survey vessels (2) Plymouth (sometimes!)
5.3 Echo-class multi-purpose survey vessels (2) Portsmouth (sometimes!)
6 Submarines
6.1 Vanguard-class submarines (SSBNs) (4) Faslane
6.2 Swiftsure-class submarines (SSNs) (2) Faslane/Plymouth (might be mistaken)
6.3 Trafalgar-class submarines (SSNs) (7) Faslane/Plymouth (might be mistaken)

Source: Current Royal Navy Ships
 

Ninja_Stoker

War Hero
Moderator
#13
Given that waiting time for Seaman Specialist is around about ten months, followed by 9 weeks basic training, then you do 10 months phase two training, before going to sea. I'd be inclined to worry about actually joining & completing the training first.

When you've done all that, you can then see what ships we have left & make a relevant choice.
 
#14
Ninja_Stoker said:
Given that waiting time for Seaman Specialist is around about ten months, followed by 9 weeks basic training, then you do 10 months phase two training, before going to sea. I'd be inclined to worry about actually joining & completing the training first.

When you've done all that, you can then see what ships we have left & make a relevant choice.
Ten months part two training for a seaman? Does it take that long to teach them to clean and paint?
 

Ninja_Stoker

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Moderator
#16
slim said:
Ten months part two training for a seaman? Does it take that long to teach them to clean and paint?
Must admit I did a double-take, I thought it meant 10 weeks, but no 10 months is correct.

To be fair, there is quite a bit besides painting & cleaning, although that does form part of it, as indeed it does for all trades.

(Gadzooks! Fancy me admitting we actually have to do cleaning! How remiss of me)
 
#17
Ninja_Stoker said:
slim said:
Ten months part two training for a seaman? Does it take that long to teach them to clean and paint?
Must admit I did a double-take, I thought it meant 10 weeks, but no 10 months is correct.

To be fair, there is quite a bit besides painting & cleaning, although that does form part of it, as indeed it does for all trades.

(Gadzooks! Fancy me admitting we actually have to do cleaning! How remiss of me)
All trades do cleaning and husbandry but seamen seem to do far more than any other trade. However ten months seems to be an extremely long training period for any trade. The old mechanician course was only two years and that was to an extremely high level. When I joined REM(A) course was fourteen weeks, LREM(A) course took thirty two weeks and by the time I did my POREL(A) course it had been shortened to eighteen weeks and we were also credited with full SAMCOs for the Sea King systems.
What are the time scales for the equivalent above now?
 

Gazza82

Lantern Swinger
#18
Thanks sgt
That helps me alot :) :thanks:

ninja I know theres alot of training involved but I'm always thinking positive that I'll make it to the other end. just want to be prepared when I do :) :thumright:
 

Ninja_Stoker

War Hero
Moderator
#19
slim said:
ten months seems to be an extremely long training period for any trade.
Yup, surprised me too: Seaman Specialist

slim said:
REM(A) course was fourteen weeks, LREM(A) course took thirty two weeks and by the time I did my POREL(A) course it had been shortened to eighteen weeks and we were also credited with full SAMCOs for the Sea King systems.
What are the time scales for the equivalent above now?
Not sure about Career Qualifying couses after your trade training, but the nearest thing that equates to REM(A) is Air Engineering Technician

Ah just realised Slim, you are probably thinking of Seamen, as in baby AB(R), AB(M) Tas Apes & suchlike as opoosed to Seaman Specialists which used to be former dabbers who went on to become Sea Specs at leading rate level & when they became "grown-up" became CBMs. They now join directly as Seaman Specialists. Hope that helps.
 

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