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Seaman specialist vs Royal marine?

Turtle RN

Midshipman
Hi all

I've been considering a career in the Royal Navy since completing college last year, it's something I definitely want to do however I am undecided on what role. I have researched the roles available to me and decided on Seaman specialist as this appealed to me the most, with Royal Marines commando a close second. To be honest one of the main reasons I chose Seaman Specialist over the Marines was because I wasn't sure I had what it takes to be a marine "99% need not apply" and all that. My careers officer also remarked "if you're not sure, it's probably not for you". Now I'm not sure if I've made the right choice. I know no one can tell me what I should do but I was wondering if someone on here could help me out with some information. Travel was a large deciding factor for me. How much do Marines travel? I want to work hard, I like pushing myself and I love working with others. The marines ethos speaks to me. Is passing out as a marine achievable for a normal 20 year old lad such as myself, I'm perfectly fit and healthy, I run a lot, the only thing that worries me is that I'm 6ft2 and skinny. Will that put me at disadvantage? Any answers or advice would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers
 

Ninja_Stoker

War Hero
Moderator
Sea Spec & Royal Marine are rather diverse career options which indicates you are right deciding to conduct further research before taking the plunge.

It's worth having a shufty on the PRMC Forum (royalmarines.uk) to get a handle on the dedication & drive required to succeed. If phys isn't your thing, then the Royal Marines is not going to be for you. It's achievable, but not without total commitment. A half-arsed approach will end in disappointment. Travel? Yep, it's certainly still there for Royal as much as it is for matelots.

With regard stature/physique, You need to weigh over 65kgs for RM and have good CV fitness...but you need good load-carrying ability also.

Sea Spec, contrary to popular belief, is not all about bombing around in fast boats. It involves learning flashing light comms which seems to surprise many and has some similarities with Warfare Specialist. As with all ratings jobs in the Navy, there are mundane & menial tasks which include cleaning, painting & basic "ship husbandry" maintenance tasks together with security duties/shifts when in harbour.

Good luck.
 

Dav1d

Badgeman
I wouldn't join as a sea spec, I am a sea spec and currently in the process as transferring to diver, I wish I had known now what it was like when I signed up 5 years ago, it's certainly not all what it says in the recruitment book, it just basically like a deck hand, boring, expected to work long hours when others have the time off, always last ones to finish work, never given time off for sport rigging for things late at night all the time, I wouldn't join any major warfare branch like WS either, go Royal Marines or flight they are best looked after and better job
 

Ninja_Stoker

War Hero
Moderator
I wouldn't join as a sea spec, I am a sea spec and currently in the process as transferring to diver, I wish I had known now what it was like when I signed up 5 years ago, it's certainly not all what it says in the recruitment book, it just basically like a deck hand, boring, expected to work long hours when others have the time off, always last ones to finish work, never given time off for sport rigging for things late at night all the time, I wouldn't join any major warfare branch like WS either, go Royal Marines or flight they are best looked after and better job
As a matter of interest - what initially drew you to Seaman Specialist - was it due to the RN website/publication photographs?

I'm trying not to sway your opinion, but I feel that the photographs/videos associated with the branch are wholly unrealistic. Interestingly, so do some of the staff teaching the Sea Spec course, who feel expectations are not accurately managed in the publicity portrayal of the branch.
 

Stirlin

War Hero
I wouldn't join as a sea spec, I am a sea spec and currently in the process as transferring to diver, I wish I had known now what it was like when I signed up 5 years ago, it's certainly not all what it says in the recruitment book, it just basically like a deck hand, boring, expected to work long hours when others have the time off, always last ones to finish work, never given time off for sport rigging for things late at night all the time, I wouldn't join any major warfare branch like WS either, go Royal Marines or flight they are best looked after and better job

I would disagree with that statement , especially coming alongside the wall.
 

Dav1d

Badgeman
As a matter of interest - what initially drew you to Seaman Specialist - was it due to the RN website/publication photographs?

I'm trying not to sway your opinion, but I feel that the photographs/videos associated with the branch are wholly unrealistic. Interestingly, so do some of the staff teaching the Sea Spec course, who feel expectations are not accurately managed in the publicity portrayal of the branch.

Yes what initially drew me in was the pictures of the guy in the boat, guns, and what it says online it's totally not true from the moment you go into phase two! 20 odd weeks doing comms/flashing light, than 9 weeks seamanship doing ras/sse/rope work, than join the ship to bridge watch keep, and do mostly chip and paint! De rust!

I would disagree with that statement , especially coming alongside the wall.

Why would you it's true, get alongside the wall, gangway/net/lights/boat covers/10inch covers/flag lockers/upper deck lockers
 

Stirlin

War Hero
Yes what initially drew me in was the pictures of the guy in the boat, guns, and what it says online it's totally not true from the moment you go into phase two! 20 odd weeks doing comms/flashing light, than 9 weeks seamanship doing ras/sse/rope work, than join the ship to bridge watch keep, and do mostly chip and paint! De rust!



Why would you it's true, get alongside the wall, gangway/net/lights/boat covers/10inch covers/flag lockers/upper deck lockers
About an hours work I would say.
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Five years service and you have never spotted blokes in ovies ( y'know , workers ) lugging very heavy cables across the side of the ship connecting them up and then having to wait for the dockside power to synch to the ship, and that's just the WE heavy gang , meanwhile down in the machinery spaces........
 

WreckerL

War Hero
Super Moderator
About an hours work I would say.
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Five years service and you have never spotted blokes in ovies ( y'know , workers ) lugging very heavy cables across the side of the ship connecting them up and then having to wait for the dockside power to synch to the ship, and that's just the WE heavy gang , meanwhile down in the machinery spaces........

Shore supply is an ME job now Stirl.
 

Dav1d

Badgeman
About an hours work I would say.
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Five years service and you have never spotted blokes in ovies ( y'know , workers ) lugging very heavy cables across the side of the ship connecting them up and then having to wait for the dockside power to synch to the ship, and that's just the WE heavy gang , meanwhile down in the machinery spaces........

Yes but that's the inter branch stuff isn't it we work harder than you! Which every branch says they do!
 

Stirlin

War Hero
Yes but that's the inter branch stuff isn't it we work harder than you! Which every branch says they do!
Right , I gave you 3 chances to STFU , you know SFA about what other branches do on a war canoe , take your head for a shit.
 

Turtle RN

Midshipman
Whilst discussing roles I said I was looking for something hands on, busy and possibly outside. The bloke I was talking to suggested Sea Spec, I looked into it and decided it seemed like a good job. I wasn't expecting to get to drive boats and shoot guns everyday, I'm thinking realistic. As long as I'm not on board all the time whilst everyone else is having a good time I'll be happy. Have I been mislead by the careers office book though?
 

Dav1d

Badgeman
Whilst discussing roles I said I was looking for something hands on, busy and possibly outside. The bloke I was talking to suggested Sea Spec, I looked into it and decided it seemed like a good job. I wasn't expecting to get to drive boats and shoot guns everyday, I'm thinking realistic. As long as I'm not on board all the time whilst everyone else is having a good time I'll be happy. Have I been mislead by the careers office book though?

No I don't think you have at all! It's is certainly outside, unless your bridge watch keeping day/night, I find its just not very rewarding, you'll do many tasks setting up for a replenishment at sea/going alongside/upper deck maintence and once more qualified will go on the boat course!
 
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