Seafire postcard wanted

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  1. Seaweed

    Seaweed War Hero Book Reviewer

    An (civilian) acquaintance of mine has just discovered that a chap he has known for years was flying Seafires off Indefat in the war. I've been asked to find postcards for my contact so that he can put a bit of history together. Indefat was easy but finding a postcard of a Seafire for sale has proved tricky in spite of grubbing about on the internet all morning. Tried FAA museum but the shop only seems to sell mugs and hats and things. Any ideas please? If there is a choice, one coming in with its hook down would be best as that would show it wasn't a Crab aircraft. Thanks in advance!
     
  2. Seaweed

    Seaweed War Hero Book Reviewer

    Many thanks chaps, some splendid pics there.
     
  3. Seaweed,

    Online images via the IWM.

    http://www.iwmcollections.org.uk/qryImages.php

    The personnel at the IWM have said that they will check their shop to see whether they actually stock a picture postcard of the Seafire for you.
    Will let you know in due course.

    SP.
     
  4. Ninja_Stoker

    Ninja_Stoker War Hero Moderator

    There's quite a few decent piccies in the IWM images collection, as suggested by sweetpea, above:

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  5. Seaweed

    Seaweed War Hero Book Reviewer

    Really appreciate that lead Sweetpea - three of the pictures are from the FAA's Tirpitz raid which I gather this man was on.
     
  6. Here you go feel free to copy.

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  7. Seaweed

    Seaweed War Hero Book Reviewer

    Many thanks Andy.
     
  8. I like the way the aircraft lift is designed so the wings don't get foleded.
     
  9. Ninja_Stoker

    Ninja_Stoker War Hero Moderator

    Feeling cold, Woo?

    Git your 'ands out of them pockets, Lofty.
     
  10. :roll: :roll: AH! AH! Stokes, what you dont realize, is that the CHIEF AIRFRAME FITTER (AE) in the photo, is also a Brain Surgeon. Ask any wife or girlfriend of a WAFU, and they will tell you, that their brains are KEPT :wink: :wink: between their legs :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
     
  11. Found a few more.

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  12. Seaweed

    Seaweed War Hero Book Reviewer

    Great, this is getting to be quite an album. Which mark had the clipped wings? Also in the top of the last lot of pics there is what appears to be a Crab looking at the aircraft.
     
  13. found this, if it is of any help, re the crab looking on :wink: LR647 Seafire IIc West M50A 15MU 19-4-43 R-RH 6-5-43 M32 install Cv LFIIC RNAS Donisbristle store 28-5-43 842S 7-43 897S 30-7-43 Port tyre burst landing port wing hit deck Cat X 8-8-43 (S/L WH Neilson) 880S 20-8-43 808S Burscough ('R') 3-12-43 Hook pulled out into barrier nosed over Hunter Cat Y1 5-2-44 (L/C JF Rankin) 768S Abbotsinch heavy landing Ravager Cat X1 23-9-44 (S/L RH Archer RNZN) ADDLs port tyre burst landing swung off runway nosed over Ayr 28-6-45 (S/L R Howarth) So it would be onboard HMS Hunter??? FAA squadrons embarked Dates Aircraft type
    813 dt March-April 1943 Swordfish II
    834 July-Aug 1943 Swordfish II
    899 Aug 1943-Oct 1943 Seafire IIc
    808 Oct 1943-Feb 1944 Seafire L.IIc
    807 Jan 1944-Dec 1944 Seafire L.IIc
    1700 dt April-Sept 1945 Walrus I
    807 March-Oct 1945 Seafire The Squadron was re-equipped in May 1944 at RNAS Lee-on-Solent with 20 Supermarine Seafire L.IIIs. At the same time, they were attached to No. 345 Reconnaissance Wing of the Royal Air Force's Second Tactical Air Force.
     
  14. Seaweed

    Seaweed War Hero Book Reviewer

    Thanks Scouse, very interesting detail. Of the photos I have now been sent I detect a progression as follows: 1st conversions, the hook sticks out straight aft, quite soon after that it is positioned ahead of the tailwheel. Cockpit canopy starts off with panels, then a bubble, then the bubble changes as the fuselage is lowered (?) to run in a straight line presumably to improve the view astern. Later marks have a more pointed vertical stabiliser. As engine power increases the prop goes from three blades to four and I think (though no phots ) five and then to a contra-rotating pair, presumably because as the power piles up the torque is pulling the a/c right off at takeoff*. At some point I understood some clever engineer cropped the prop so as to reduce pecking. Wingfold is as described above in the url you are giving me.

    *Pierre Clostermann in his book was interesting on this re his first go in a Typhoon with its 24 cylinder engine and nine-foot prop. I hadn't realised that the fuselage of a Spitfire was slightly distorted to compensate for the torque of the Merlin. Clever fellow RJ Mitchell.
     
  15. Seaweed - There's a surprising amount of info about the Seafire on Wikipedia: Supermarine Seafire

    Wiki also contains this illuminating passage in the section on the Supermarine Spitfire:

    Supermarine Spitfire - Seafire variant
    I seem to remember that the Spitfire, on which the Seafire was based, is still regarded as Britain's most successful aircraft design with 24 different marks developed over the course of its life.
     

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