I know this sounds a bit far fetched (well not really with this government), has any one heard the buzz that the government are on about supplementing the infantry units with 3000 sailors ???
Hmmm! and at Gallipoli 16000 of the 19000 in the Division were casualties! There is an interesting article in Novembers Navy News. I think there is a big difference between training a Sailor to become an infantry soldier today v 1914. There are already hundreds of sailors who have been trained in basic infantry skills in both Afghanistan (800 Sqdn + medics) and Iraq (Junglies etc) but mobilising 3000 into an infantry role would require a bit more thought me thinks!!janner said:Read up on your history, during WW1 the Royal Navy Divisions were regarded as some of the finest fighting men....too many men, not enough ships, sound at at all familiar.....could this be a case of history repeating itselft?
I agree with you there, and a fair point well made.damo567 said:I would have thought if it was going to happen it would be in a support role, security of the main bases, logistics etc.
However even some of the support soldiers have been involved in some pretty fierce fighting.
I agree with most of what you said mate, except the last bit. I was up in Al-Amarah for six months, came back April. As an Arabic Interpreter, I was out on the ground almost every day and was exposed to hostile fire on more than one occasion. During my first tour in Telic 2, I was doing the same job but based out of Basra palace, and the same was true then. It was even worse then because at least in AA we were out in warrior as opposed to Snatch.Deeps said:Having served in the RN for over 6 years and now I am in the army i feel I can pass comment on this subject. The term ''infantry trained'' is very much over used even in the army. Everyone in serving in the army is a ''trained soldier'' some people get this confused with ''infantry trained'' beleive me there is a massive difference.Prior to deployment on operations all memebers of the army have to carry out OPTAG training which in full should be about 3 months long .Of course prior to this training as I have stated already all the soldiers are ''trained soldiers'' anyway.So who ever started this duty buzz that sailors are going out to Afgan to support the Infantry is taking out of his arrse.
No disrespect to the RN but even the most Gung Ho gunner on a pussers war canoe is nowhere near the level to even think about supporting the ''teeth arm soldiers'' in Afgan. Of course we all know Iraq and Afgan are tri-service deployments,but it is extremely rare that non-combat service personnel will ever be put into an area where there is a chance of action. I know we have the helicopter crews but they are trained for that job and they are very very good too.
I have done some "army" training too, my annual CCS (common Core Skills) training which seems to involve: knowing how long a football pitch is? How many times I can fit that bloody stupid sling incorrectly to my SA80, being able to count to 20, choking to death in a sadist chamber, being able to carry out CPR on small child and knowing which way the barrelly thing must point so that I don't miss all my shots. I think it would require a lot of work on the part of some very patient soldiers to bring me up to the level of an Infantry Soldier, willing to give it a go though!damo567 said:Cheers, was just curious about what it would involve, I have done some army training myself (Navigation, BFT, CFT, Weapons) so I had a rough idea that it wouldn't really be possible