Whimsical... is that a real word? :lol:Passed-over_Loggie said:As attractive as that may seem, it's now too late and not even a remote option. It would send totally the wrong message to all the other nasty buggers running other various countries. Leaving him alone is one thing but throwing him out, creating chaos, then putting him back is another matter all together.
I do realise, of course, you were all being whimsical.
Answer: ANARCHY? :wink:Just exactly what does it take to make these people happy? Rolling Eyes
It's not about genetics Lingy! It's in part cultural and part historic. Attempts at using education as a tool for modernisation has, as with Sharist Iran, led to Islamic Radicalisation rather than the germination of a liberal-democratic ideal as the dominant force for change. There is no tradition or long history, as in the West, of struggling for liberty and free speech. Their struggle for change is relativly recent in historic terms and has taken a number of specific courses, all of which err towards dictatorships rather that a liberal approach to decision making and debating issues.Lingyai said:Saddam is an old man, but if he walked out of prison now in his nix and sox the country would be back on it's knees in a heartbeat. Bush and co have fcuked this right up and we all know that the cycle of violence will continue until such time as the gloves come off and that means a hard bastard dictator takes over and stamps on the insurgants. As in all tribal cultures be it African or Arab, it is in their nature to fight until the strongest emerges. Sadly, democracy is not an option, they just dont have the education or genetics for it. I just hope I get to see the next dictator in my lifetime so our troops don't keep dying out there.
No competition there Steve, the English have their boot well and truly on the neck of the skirt wearers'. :lol: :wink:Always_a_Civvy said:On the tribal front I would not however fundamentally disagree, as Afganistan itself neatly illustrates, or increasingly Scotland v England? :wink:
Agree with that.Always_a_Civvy said:A tragedy. For all his faults, at least he had a good record in maintaining law and order. OK he went a bit OTT, but unlike our so-called allies in the House of Sand, he didn't promote the theological ideology and culture underpinning Al Q. If you look at the death toll from that perspective you might wonder if members of the right family are facing the ignonomy of the gallows.
Other than the Malmedy Massacre (other side's doing) what was so dirty about the Ardennes Offensive ( if that's what you mean?).(Ardenne would never have happened in todays climate for example - too dirty) in those conflicts but in the end it had to be done and history tells us we were in the right.
Perhaps its a referance to the Germans using English speakers dressed as US troops to stir it up behind the lines?
My italics.we killed alot of people to achieve our goals (Ardenne would never have happened in todays climate for example - too dirty) in those conflicts but in the end it had to be done and history tells us we were in the right.