SADDAM VERDICT

[golden_rivet]

All Iraqui leave has been cancelled in anticipation of the trail verdict. Surely executing him isn't going to solve any of Iraq's problems and since the whole trial is a put up job to silence an American ally and hide the US part in his and many other repressive regimes worldwide it may just make things worse.

Nice though it is (well a bit) to think of him swinging from a lampost to scapegoat him in this way will do absolutely nothing to improve the situation in Iraq and will probably lead to greater instability. Who are we kidding after all - Iraq is much more of a security threat now both to the international system as well as to Iraquis internally and if the puppet regime hangs him it is just a pathetic attempt to divert attention from the western backed farce of the trial.

 

[SILVER_FOX]

Well it sure won't make it any worse than it already it. True - we will see a heightened amount of violence regardless of the verdict but this should die down eventually.

The positive thing will be to draw a line under his reign and allow the country to eventuallymove on - something which it is unable to do whilst the matter is unresolved.

We're anticipating a 5th of November to that we'll remember for a while. Now where's my bloody tin hat?

SF

 

[Deleted 493]

Well it sure won't make it any worse than it already it. True - we will see a heightened amount of violence regardless of the verdict but this should die down eventually.

Based on what evidence, exactly?

The positive thing will be to draw a line under his reign and allow the country to eventuallymove on - something which it is unable to do whilst the matter is unresolved.

If Hussein is executed, stand by for another wave of savagery from the Sunnis. Don't forget - they form the rump of the deposed parties which made up the Ba'athists. Given the cross-border level of support for the Shias, I reckon we will see thousands killed in the first three months, and onther step toward civil war

Levers

 

[slim]

Whatever happens to Saddam Iraq is headed for a civil war.
The sooner our troops are withdrawn the better. It seems that we are not welcome there. As for the rest of the Muslim world, most of them wanted to see Saddam deposed but were too frightened to do anything about it.
Lets get our guys/girls out of the place and let battle begin.

 

[SILVER_FOX]

Levers Mate, the evidence for the heightened violence? You'll have to take my word on it as thats what we're being briefed and it's already apparent.

Will it settle down eventually? Almost certainly but probably to the level that is normal for this god forsaken piece of dirt. It will take years and considerably more resources to push the level back even further.

Regarding you r last point? Yes agreed, but if he isn't executed the other side will be just as unhappy and will probably voice their anger in the same manner. So it is a case of dammed if you do and dammed if you don't. Great eh?

SF

 

[Darkershadeofblu]

Levers Mate, the evidence for the heightened violence? You'll have to take my word on it as thats what we're being briefed and it's already apparent.

Will it settle down eventually? Almost certainly but probably to the level that is normal for this god forsaken piece of dirt. It will take years and considerably more resources to push the level back even further.

Regarding you r last point? Yes agreed, but if he isn't executed the other side will be just as unhappy and will probably voice their anger in the same manner. So it is a case of dammed if you do and dammed if you don't. Great eh?

SF

SF Good to see that you're still in circulation - couldn't agree with you more. Let Sadaam get what he deserves and then sort out the mess from which ever faction decides to remonstrate.

 

[stirling2]

For the American bully to force western democracy on Arab states is turning into a modern day Vietnam....IMO no one will win.

Joined yesterday, my first post..good day to you all.

 

[Passed-over_Loggie]

As I see it, any Iraqi government will be seen as a US "puppet"; an inevitable result of the unplanned FU the 2 grinning idiots started.

As to whether the man should be executed, that's a hard one. He certainly deserves a slow and lingering death but there are other factors to consider. This isn't a simple re-run of Nuremburg as that option ran out after GRANBY. His offences were against the Iraqi people so they must be given a clear and significant say in it. There must not, under any circumstances, be the slightest suspicion that it is an American decision. This is where Teflon Tony could do something useful, for once, and make the European (slight pause while I spit) position on execution known. The civilised generosity of victory. Show the World that civilised and enlightened nations do not demand death penalties. That may just blow the average Muslim's swede!

For my part, let him live the solitary life we bestowed upon R Hess. Deny him his place in history as a martyr. If there were to be hostage taking and blackmail for his release, we would have already seen it. Let the bas*ard rot and die of old age, with as many free cigarettes as he can smoke.

 

[SILVER_FOX]

Passed-over_Loggie wrote: For my part, let him live the solitary life we bestowed upon R Hess. Deny him his place in history as a martyr. If there were to be hostage taking and blackmail for his release, we would have already seen it. Let the bas*ard rot and die of old age, with as many free cigarettes as he can smoke.

I understand your sentiment and am almost inclined to agree to a certain degree, but keeping him around would only give continued hope to his supporters and encourage them to carry on indefinitely whilst he still breathes. Better to end it now and suffer the consequences in the short-term to [hopefully] avoid dragging this thing out for years.

SF

 

[rosinacarley]

Whatever the outsome, SF please stay safe. My thoughts are with you today.

RC x

 

[Passed-over_Loggie]

Ah well; looks like he's getting the neck extension. I'm glad that he was clearly shaken by the verdict.

 

[golden_rivet]

Don't get too excited loggie - it hasn't happened yet