One of the problems with using online ''pedia's" they are often wrong! There are several mistakes in this chart, at least if you choose to take Queens Regs as the definitive . A leading Rate is no longer junior to other service Corporals WEF 2005 when QR's were re-written, also a PO is not OR5/ OR6 he is in fact OR6. We have no ranks in the OR3 or OR5 brackets.Geoff_Wessex said:
There appears to be some confusion about the status of RN WOs. I am!chieftiff said:I would therefore take the WO definitions with a pinch of salt.
To be more accurate.. since a USN CWO is between a Master Chief & Ensign.. they salute Officers and return the salute of Enlisted.CWO_Mustang said:US Navy Warrant Officers are saluted by all ratings.
US Army Warrants are a more separate community than USN, not as accepted in the Ward Room. US Army has CWOs who ascend via enlisted and CWOs who come straight from civilian life (helicopter pilots mostly) whole â€˜nuther story..Geoff_Wessex said:I remember a US Army Chief Warrant Officer at HQ AFNORTH, Oslo, in the 70s - he might not have been the senior officer but in real terms he ran the place! Mind you, there were USAF Chief Master Sergeants (or something like that - stripes/chevrons everywhere) who would have been hard pressed to be in charge of light bulbs.
USN renders salutes as a courtesy or greeting. The watch on Anzio would have saluted you even if you had been in uniform.Jenny_Dabber said:I do rememeber walking up the US Anzio's gangway in civvies, greeted by the BM and QM who saluted me. All I remember saying:
'Nice but I do actually work for a living'.
Sorry I'm so long winded today.. hope this helps..When boarding a ship in civilian attire and the national ensign is flying, you will halt at the gangway, at attention, and face aft. You then turn to the OOD at attention. If you are returning to your own ship, you say, â€œI request permission to come aboard, sir/maâ€™am.â€ The OOD salutes and says, â€œVery wellâ€ or a similar expression. When you board a ship other than your own, you say, â€œI request permission to come aboard, sir/maâ€™am.â€ You should then add the purpose of your visit. The OOD will then say, â€œPermission grantedâ€ or â€œPermission not granted.â€
RN practice is to salute the quarterdeck, rather than the ensign, which the USN do. It is something that has got very slack through lack of enforcement.Geoff_Wessex said:That last piece about saluting when boarding used to apply to RN ships too, when I first joined - during 60s. On your 'own' ship a salute aft to the ensign was sufficient, while on ships other than your 'own', we asked permission too. Even in my time it faded - officers and Senior Rates not enforcing it, I suppose.