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  1. Hi there

    I have my Navy Medical coming up soon but am worrying about failing it for some reason!

    Just what is involved in the medical? Are there any blood/urine tests at this stage? If I have had a previous football injury which has not reoccured in 3 years will this be discussed? Do they look into your complete medical history to see if any illnesses will also reoccur?

    Any answers to these points would be really helpful!

    Regards

    Irp87
     
  2. Ninja_Stoker

    Ninja_Stoker War Hero Moderator

    To clarify the medical standards laid down to all applicants joining the Armed Forces:

    In general terms if an individual fails to meet the medical standard for a specific trade in one of the services, they will most likely do likewise in the equivalent trade in one of the other arms of the Services.

    Despite individual experience expressed to the contrary, the medical standards for entry are different for those currently serving personnel who may develop a condition “in service†which precludes entry, but does not always stop them continuing to serve after they have joined.

    Rather than enter into the semantics or “fairness†of the standards outlined below, those wishing to complain about it would be better off directing their complaint at the medical authorities who set the standard – they get paid a lot more than me anyway. The following is an extract from the AFCO Form 5, Application Form Information and Guidance Booklet that is given to every applicant (which invariably remain unread!). Any spelling errors are mine, my apologies:

    AFCO FORM 5 Revised Mar 07

    APPLICATION FORM INFORMATION & GUIDANCE NOTES

    MEDICAL

    Fit to Serve. The Armed Forces require anyone who enters to be medically fit to serve world-wide.

    New entrants to the Armed Forces undergo Intensive training which is physically demanding and mentally taxing, therefore the Service medical authorities have to be made aware of your medical history. Your application will be rejected if you fail to meet the minimum acceptable medical standard for entry. Your medical history is confidential and is not disclosed to those not authorised to hold this information.

    The following initial medical examinations will take place for the:

    (1) Royal Navy and Royal Air Force. It will take place locally as arranged by the Armed Forces Careers Office.

    (2) Army. It will take place in an Army Development and Selection Centre. For that reason the Army additionally uses a detailed questionnaire to be completed by your Doctor as part of the eligibility process in order to help avoid unnecessary travel away from home.

    (3) Reserve Forces. Under single service arrangements as notified by the recruiting personnel.

    Unsuitable conditions.

    The conditions in the table on below and overleaf make a person permanently unsuitable for entry into the Services.
    Please also note:

    (1) Height and weight Height should be within normal limits for the recruit’s age and weight should be in proportion to height (see also paragraph 1.8b).

    (2) Visual standards: The minimum standards for both uncorrected and corrected visual acuity on recruitment are determined by single-Service authorities and are dependent upon the proposed employment and trade group. Spectacle or contact lens correction must not be greater than -7 dioptres or +8 dioptres in any meridian. Impaired colour perception (colour blindness) is not a bar to service but may limit career choices.

    This table below and overleaf is not exhaustive and is for general guidance only. Many conditions that are compatible with civilian employment and sport may be considered incompatible with military service. If you have a medical condition that is not mentioned below, or you are unclear about the impact of your medical
    history, you should seek further advice from the AFCO staff. Please note that the AFCO staff are not medically qualified and that the decision regarding medical suitability for enlistment is determined by selection medical staff.

    Eye Disorders

    Eye disease e.g. glaucoma, keratoconus, retinitis pigmentosa. Double vision.
    Visual field defects. Corneal grafts or recurrent corneal ulcers. Cataract or cataract surgery. Detached retina. Vision only in one eye. Squint surgery in the previous 6 months. Laser eye surgery in the previous 12 months.

    Ear Nose & Throat disorders

    Ongoing ear, nose, throat or sinus disease. Deafness. Presence of grommets.
    Current perforated ear drum. Certain surgical procedures.

    Heart and Cardiovascular disorders

    Heart disease. Certain congenital heart conditions e.g. repair of tetralogy of Fallot, coarctation of the aorta. Certain heart valve abnormalities. High blood pressure. Reynaud’s disease.

    Respiratory disorders

    Asthma, wheeze or asthma symptoms or treatment within the past 4 years. Lung
    disease Including chronic bronchitis, emphysema, bronchiectasis, cystic fibrosis.
    Active tuberculosis.

    Abdominal and digestive disorders including diet

    Ongoing abdominal, digestive or liver disease. Crohn's disease. Ulcerative colitis.
    Loss of spleen (splenectomy). Chronic hepatitis. Untreated hernia. Requirement for specific dietary restriction.

    Neurological disorders

    Ongoing nervous system disease. Epilepsy or more than one Seizure/fit after
    the age of 5 (although Benign Rolandic epilepsy is acceptable). Single seizure/fit
    within the last 5 years. Multiple sclerosis. Complications following head injury.
    Hydrocephalus (with or without shunt). Severe or recurrent headache (including
    migraine).

    Endocrine Disorders

    Diabetes. Adrenal disorders. Pituitary disorders. Certain thyroid diseases.
    Abdominal and digestive disorders

    Skin disorders

    Chronic eczema or dermatitis. &ere psoriasis. Severe acne.

    Female reproductive disorders

    Chronic breast pain. Chronic pelvic pain or Inflammatory disease. Endometriosis.


    Male reproductive disorders

    Current cancer of the testicle or prostate gland. Chronic pelvic pain.

    Musculoskeletal disorders

    Any abnormality that interferes with the ability to undertake military training.
    Spinal abnormalities. Certain spinal operations. Recurrent back pain or sciatica.
    Joint disease, pain or limitation of joint movement. Hypermobility (laxity)
    of the joints, Bone or joint operations within the last 12 months. Anterior
    cruciate ligament reconstruction (subject to single Service policy). Recurrent
    joint dislocations. Severe deformity following fractures. Loss of a limb. Foot
    abnormalities (e.g. club foot, hammer toe). Complete loss of either big toe.
    Complete loss of either thumb. Arthritis and similar conditions.

    Blood disorders

    Certain blood diseases, such as G6PDD, sickle cell disease, congenital
    spherocytosis, haemoglobinopathy, Any bleeding disorder or abnormality or blood clotting.

    Infection

    Human immunodeficiency virus (HN) / acquired immune deficiency syndrome
    (AIDS). Carriers of hepatitis viruses.

    Malignancy (cancer)

    Most cancers are considered to place an applicant below the medical entry standard. Exceptions - some cancers in childhood or early adult life that have
    been successfully treated and are regarded as cured.

    Allergic disorders

    Severe allergic reactions and/or anaphylaxis. A need to any adrenaline
    injections (EPIPEN etc.). Nut and peanut allergy. Egg allergy. Latex allergy.
    Vaccine allergy (including Tetanus allergy). Gluten sensitivity (Coeliac disease).

    Conditions resulting from exposure to extremes of temperature

    Heat illness. Frostbite and non-freezing cold injury.

    Psychiatric disorders

    Ongoing psychiatric illness. Psychosis. Schizophrenia Obsessive-compulsive
    disorder. Autism. Personality disorder. More than one episode of deliberate
    self-harm of any type. Post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD). Alcohol, drug or
    substance dependence. Attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) unless
    free of symptoms and not requiring treatment for at least 3 years. Anorexia and
    bulimia.

    Kidney disorders

    Ongoing kidney disease. Polycystic kidney disease and kidney stones. Donation
    of kidney in the past 6 months.

    Other - Transplanted organs.

    Temporary conditions.

    The following conditions Incur a temporary hold on the selection procedure and or entry/attestation until fully recovered, discharged from hospital follow-up and fit to undergo arduous training:

    Waiting list for an operation

    Temporary illness or injury

    Pregnancy

    Your application may be rejected due to other medical reasons, which are subject to the discretion of Service Medical Authorities.

    MINIMUM HEIGHT AND WEIGHTS

    Royal Navy and Royal Marines. There is a minimum height requirement of 151.5cm. Naval Airman aircraft handlers must be between 166 and 193 cm. The Royal Marines also have a minimum weight requirement of 60kg.

    Army. There is an overall minimum height requirement of 148cm except for driver trades when the minimum height is 158cm. This will be indicated when those specific jobs are discussed as an option along with other selection criteria.

    RAF. There is no overall minimum height; however, certain trades have a minimum height requirement. This will be indicated when those specific jobs are discussed as an option along with other selection criteria

    TATTOOS/BODY PIERCING

    The Armed Forces have a policy on Tattoos and Body Piercing as follows:

    a. Tattoos. Any tattoo(s) which is/are offensive or obscene will be a bar to entry or re-entry. Additionally tattoos should not be visible on the head and neck. Furthermore any tattoo(s) excessive in size or number may be a bar to entry or re-entry. You may be asked to complete a form describing your tattoos.

    b. Body piercing. For Health and Safety reasons you will be asked to remove certain items of body piercing jewellery before undergoing physical activity as part of the application and selection process. You will not be allowed to attempt the physical activities if you do not remove the body piercing jewellery as requested. . If you are successful in your application you will be advised by
    Service authorities on what the rules are for wearing body jewellery when on and off duty.

    Again:

    Rather than enter into the semantics or “fairness†of the standards outlined, those wishing to complain about it would be better off directing their complaint at the medical authorities who set the standard.
     
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  3. get ready for some ramdon guy to cup and say 'cough please'
     
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  4. Also, a word of advice from my own experience; don't say 'Oh, thanks very much' at point of contact.
     
  5. nor say your hands feels fimilular...
     
  6. Avoid "normally I have to pay for this."
     
  7. nor you feel like my dad!
     
  8. Or 'your hands are warmer than my mums'
     
  9. Just curious, but where does lactose intolerance fit in this? Is this something that would stop you joining, or get you released once in?
     
  10. avoid saying ' when i take out my weapon i have to draw blood'
     
  11. oh one more thing, when he says "this isnt going to hurt" he is lying I will leave you to your own conclusions about that :cry:
     
  12. o and it is a bad sign when he is counting how many balls you have and he says 1... 2... 3...?????
     
  13. janner

    janner War Hero Book Reviewer

    Concerned about blood and urine tests? Have we been a naughty boy?
     
  14. If he asks to examine you prostate with his special device say no it isnt part of the medical I have since found out.
     
  15. Just had my medical today, I was really worried about it too but it went fine.
    He did go into my past medical history but as long as there are no lingering problems then everything should be fine.
    At first I gave a urine sample, then weight and height was measured.
    Then you go through things like colour blindness tests, hearing tests, your medical questionnaire. and also measuring lung capacity. you then go in to see the doctor who just goes through your medical history, takes your blood pressure etc.
    Any reason for being in hospital were discussed to see if there were any complications and any bouts of illness too.
    apparantely my BMI means I'm fat (sorry, overweight), even though I hardly have any fat on me, BMI doesn't take into account body fat percentage apparantely, just a ratio of your height and weight.
    You do strip to your underwear but it's nothing that bad, although yeah there was a cough bit in there, and a quick investigation of the genitals, mouth and ears, and then that's it.

    Good luck!!
     
  16. So long as you don't milk it...
     
  17. :D
     
  18. Hi all

    I have just found out that I had grommets when I was 3. I understand that having grommets is a bar from entry, however I obviously don't have them anymore as they fell out when I was about 4, does anyone know if this is going to cause me a problem? I passed my medical, but as I didn't know about the grommets at the time I didn't declare it. I've rang my AFCO and they are going to speak to the Doctor as they don't know what my position is, just wondering if anyone on here can give me a heads up? I have my start date for January 15th and really don't want to not be able to go just because of this

    Any help would be much appreciated

    Thank you
     
  19. Ninja_Stoker

    Ninja_Stoker War Hero Moderator

    Again, you'll need to confirm with a qualified Medical Officer, but so far as I'm aware if the grommets are out & the tympanic membrane is intact, you should be OK as long as you're clear of any ongoing treatment/medication & can pass the hearing test.

    Pardon?
     
  20. Thanks for that Ninja! I haven't had any treatment for 20 years which is roughly when they fell out. My careers advisor has just called me and everything is fine. My mind has now been put to rest and my heart rate as returned to normal. Thank you for your help :)
     

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