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Royal Navy Log Books

MarkRS

Midshipman
I am looking for the log books of the following ships for June 1940:
HMS Havelock
HMS Highlander
HMS Cambridgeshire
HMS Vanoc
HMS Punjabi

Regards, Mark
 
Most surviving logs are held by the National Archives at Kew but those of destroyer-sized ships and below were rarely kept after the war. You could also try Naval Historical Branch and the RN Museum Library. Contact details here.
 

MarkRS

Midshipman
Hi Naval Gazer,

Thanks for the tip, however I have already tried all three sources with no luck. What I am really trying to do is establish if one of these ships picked up a downed German air crew in St Nazaire esturary on 17/06/1940.

Mark
 

MarkRS

Midshipman
Good idea scouse, but it was a bomber - JU88. Is there a German Bomber Pilot's Association?

Mark
 

lsadirty

War Hero
May be able to help on this. There is a series of large bound volumes in the National Archive that details the movements of HM Ships from about 1938 to about 1946 in most cases. It gives details of where the ship went, boiler cleans etc, of if any of them were diverted or detached to pick up downed aircrew (or land/transfer,them) it would be in here. The volumes you need are:
HAVELOCK & HIGHLANDER - ADM 199/2556.
CAMBRIDGESHIRE - ADM 199/2549.
VANOC - ADM 199/2574.
PUNJABI - ADM 199/2566.

A word of warning though - photocopying costs are high and researchers cost a lot more. Best if you visit yourself or get an Oppo to do it for you - you need proof of ID, they give you a Readers Card and away you go.
The decision to bin the smaller vessels logs was IMHO, an act of historical vandalism of the highest order - the vessels that saw the most action were trashed except a few specimen samples, yet depot ships and capital ships swinging around a buoy, are preserved in their entireity.
I remember these books because I sent them to the NA in 2003 before I left the MoD - after I'd had a damn good read first though !!!
Best of luck !
Jan B
 

soleil

War Hero
Hi Naval Gazer,

Thanks for the tip, however I have already tried all three sources with no luck. What I am really trying to do is establish if one of these ships picked up a downed German air crew in St Nazaire esturary on 17/06/1940.

Mark

Mark

HMS Cambridgeshire was definitely off St Nazaire on June 17th 1940; she was heavily involved in the rescue of survivors of the sinking of the Lancastria on that date, picking up about a thousand of them:

Seekrieg 1940, Juni
 

scouse

War Hero
The site is for all Luftwaffe aircrew fighters and bombers, just join and put your request in
 

MarkRS

Midshipman
@isadirty: Thanks, that will help a lot whn I can get there.
@soleil: That is what I am researching. Thanks for the links.
@scouse: Officially the British claim 1 bomber down, the Germans claim 3 bombers damaged with no losses. I have 5 different eye witness reports of a downed bomber, one of which is very detailed. He claims the crew were picked up by a British Destroyer. I shall ask on the site you gave me.

Thanks everyone for pointing me in a useful direction.

Mark.
 

HMSJones

Newbie
Hi Mark, Reading through the threads here and was wondering if you ever get the results for the moments of the destroyers
Havelock & Highlander-Vanoc and Veteran for June 1940?
Any assistance for specifically the 5th through 11th June. May save me a trip to Kew ;)
 

MarkRS

Midshipman
Hi Mike,
I am afraid I have found nothing so far. I have not been looking very hard. My gut feeling is that what I am looking for is a made up story for dramatic effect. However, if you do find any documents I would be interested in the entries for 17 June 1940, just to eliminate any possibility that the story may be true.
 
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