Royal Marines Medical Officer

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  1. Hi. Ive been strongly considering wanting to join the Royal Marines as an officer but I would also love to be a doctor. Im 17 at the moment so i really need to be making a decision between doing medicine at uni and then later down the line possibly training as a doctor in the RM or army, or, applying as a normal officer in the RM, in which case I'd do a shorter degree at uni (biology or something like that) before applying.

    It's pretty easy to get alot of info on being an Officer in the RM but nearly impossible to find anything on being a doctor so i was wondering if there were any doctors in the RM on the forum or just people who know more about it than i do that could tell me what its like as a job.

    If anyone could tell me stuff like what the application and trainign process for a doctor is; the advantages and disadvantages of being a doctor over a normal officer; how the salary compares to being a civvi doctor etc... it'd be much appreciated

    Also, if i joined as a doctor I'd be worried that I'd feel that i was missing out on all the exciting stuff that regular commandos and officers get to do, is this the case??

    Thanks. KERPOW :)
     
  2. Doctors are sourced from the RN. If you're attached to the RM you are likely to do the 'All Arms' course (very much like the Commando course) to get your green lid.

    If you have the aptitude and intelligence to become a Doctor, do so. You'll earn a shed load more money than your equivalent rank in the Services, and are likely to see a fair bit of operational service to boot. You'll also have a profession to return to once you retire.
     
  3. With the current operational tempo, you'll see a fair bit of Iraq and Afghanistan though - a lot of dark blue medics manning up the Field Hospitals in both theatres.
     
  4. Our PMO onboard has a green lid, point being that you could actually be sent anywhere even IF you state a preference for Cdo duties.
     
  5. No but if you you keep voulenteering then chances are you will keep doing tours. Then returning back to another unit after the tours.
    lets face it were going to be in afghan for at elast the next 20 years.
    A voulenteer is worth 10 pressed men.
     
  6. If I was you I would go for doctor, for a start you will have many options. How many booties are fully qualified for a job when they leave? Also, many bootie officers get chopped during their training.

    Go to medical school, get the RN to sponsor you so you get loads of money (and have a guaranteed job!). If in the first couple of years you find out that it is not for you then you can always join the RM as an officer as a backup.

    To be honest, I would have thought that you would have a more fascinating career as a doc because all the way through your career you will be able to actually practise medicine, whereas as an RM officer (and I am open to be corrected if I am wrong) after the first few years most of your jobs will be non-operational and you will do lots of staff work.

    As a doc I would have thought that the RN offers the most interesting challenge as you can do eveything that an Army or RAF doc can, but also have a lot more variety. A mate of mine was an RN doc and had his green lid and his dolphins!!
     
  7. As above - if selected you can get sponsored for the final 3 years of medical school.

    Not wanting to discourage you, but medicine is crap at the mo. Government has made a complete mess of postgraduate training and demoralised all junior (ie non-consultant) docs to the point that many have left the UK and a fair number have left medicine altogether. The NHS is a beurocratic dream which is target-driven (as against patient-driven) and failing rapidly as a system. I would not recommend anyone to read medicine - if you've got the right A levels consider dentistry (more money, fewer hours) or law.

    Might be worth having a chat with a couple of junior docs in your local hospital. I'm happy to give advice - PM me if you like.
     
  8. angrydoc,

    While I wouldn't disagree with you, I would have thought that you have just given a good reason to be a military doctor!
     
  9. thanks very much for all the comments , very helpful
     
  10. cheers letthecatoutofthebag theres some useful stuff on that.

    does anyone know if you can do your AACC whilst serving in the RAMC
     
  11. Surely the Army would prefer you to do the P-Company?
     
  12. Stumpy,

    Military docs are still subject to the same standards as civvy ones, and our post-graduate training is identical. I love the naval/military aspects of my work - it's the NHS crap which is arse and demoralising. If Kerpow was already a doctor then I'd say go for it - my reservation is about becoming a doctor. If I had a De Lorean and could go back in time, I'd do something else - but would still join the RN.
     
  13. Ninja_Stoker

    Ninja_Stoker War Hero Moderator

    Frankly if you are a Doctor you're more likely to be able to afford a De Lorean. Whilst it is a very highly specialised field, in which I most certainly am no expert. A Naval Medical Officer earns the highest wage & if money is the primary mover, then if acadmically capable, you could do far, far worse. The pre-registration wage is £37,500, having earned £14,000 year 3, £15,000 year 4 & £16,000 year 5 of your degree if you get sponsorship.

    Post registration starts on £50k and raises incrementally to £100k within 5 years of graduating. After 26 years service I earn around £34k - if I could afford to hire the said vehicle, or get a lift off a Doc that owned one, and were it not for the fact I only got a CSE in "colouring-in", I know which option I'd take a second time around.

    Doubtless there's lots of faults with the job, not least the NHS primary health care aspects however a Naval Medical Officer is at least usually spared having to work in the paediatric or geriatric fields, which many say they are grateful of.

    As already pointed out an All Arms Trained Medical Officer is a high value asset & as such is not particularly likely to be going out on foot patrols looking for trouble with "Terry Taliban". Granted the US Navy operates at times like Star Trek & sends it's CO, XO & PMO out on a recce in hostile territory, but the RN/RM prefers not to.
     
  14. Ninja - I graduated in 2002 and am not on 100K! Also, as you can be a GP faster than a hospital consultant, you will get to the higher salary scales faster, so it depends on which specialty you go into.

    If you want big bucks, go for dentistry - they get a lot more than MOs.
     
  15. Ninja_Stoker

    Ninja_Stoker War Hero Moderator

  16. I am afraid that the Delorean has been cut from the defence budget as a cost saving. However, I seriously suspect that the Yanks have them, because we know how they like to rewrite history!
     
  17. If its money and thrills and spills(Ish) fang farrier is the way to go

    You can get a green hat if your keen and get to inflict pain on royal round the world

    I've worked alongside a lot of dentos (feck off I'm not a dental fag) and they are right up there in terms of money at an early career stage and they still manage to get blown the feck up like everybody else LOL

    Green hat MO has gotta be great position, definitely worth a punt

    Why not go rmr reserve while studying to feel the love of the bootneck people and earn a little cash, if you don't like it nowt lost
     
  18. Further to theGimps comments. I met an RN doc who did exactly that as an undergrad and I got the feeling he thought he gained far more out of those RMR years than he would have by doing the AACC later on.

    If you do decide you want to go down the medical route with another service, you take that training with you (and the beret I suppose). I know an RAMC doc who took that option.

    Horses for courses I guess but the training is sound and well respected and will, I suspect, gain you more than being an undergrad doc in the RNR.

    Here ends the party election broadcast for the RMR.
     

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