the_badger
Badgeman
Given the current recruitment and retention situation, they only need to wait to 2010 till nearly all of the RNR will have left anyway! :lol:
itsamuppet said:I have never been to Chatham or know of the rule, possibly it follows the lower deck of what goes on tour stays on tour. And as I have spent all of my life in or around the Navy I am quite suprised.
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thingy said:This matter was raised (under Chatham House Rules) with the FSL on HMS Bulwark on Monday evening. My understanding of his reply (GR should be able to clarify as she was with me) is that he talked of fully integrating the RNR into the RN (in much the same way the other reserves are being integrated) so that phasing out the RNR would be a logical step forward following integration.
itsamuppet said:I have never been to Chatham or know of the rule, possibly it follows the lower deck of what goes on tour stays on tour. And as I have spent all of my life in or around the Navy I am quite suprised.
I was also not on the Bulwark or at any time privvy to any conversation that took place.
I am simply using this forum as a sounding board to see if the rumour I heard and then could or would not be confirmed utilising RNR proper channels, was in fact true.
Had my command structure when asked this delicate question (in confidence) not baulked at the question and given me a resounding no then I would not be on here.
As it was a look of suprise that someone should know this that doesn't partake in wardroom high jinxes, and a embarresed "I'll get back to you" only leaves me with one thought, that there is some truth in it.
Please do not get me wrong, I believe that a cull of personnel is required, who for no other reason than they don't fancy a deployment, have yet to give anything back to the service that pays them.
But we need to give the Navy what it wants to survive, and with the limited manpower we have maybe we need to look at the branches that do not offer the same amount of deployability and retrain them to the branches that do i.e AWFP. Either that or everyone does their time from new entry to LH in AWFP and then changes to branch at that point, works for MW.
itsamuppet said:I am simply using this forum as a sounding board to see if the rumour I heard and then could or would not be confirmed utilising RNR proper channels, was in fact true.
Had my command structure when asked this delicate question (in confidence) not baulked at the question and given me a resounding no then I would not be on here.
Please do not get me wrong, I believe that a cull of personnel is required
But we need to give the Navy what it wants to survive, and with the limited manpower we have maybe we need to look at the branches that do not offer the same amount of deployability and retrain them to the branches that do i.e AWFP. Either that or everyone does their time from new entry to LH in AWFP and then changes to branch at that point, works for MW.
rosinacarley said:Whilst I can understand CHR and all that, I am not really understanding that in this day and age of the internet and open source information, if a matter is not to be discussed outside the room in which is was first mentioned, why someone would be so indiscrete as to mention it in the first place. Human nature being what it is and all that. Presumeably there were people in the audience like Steve who have no obligation to keep schtum about anything that they have heard?
CMR has been talking for at least a year about trying to make the RNR and RN more integrated.
dunkers said:I think we are making a mountain out of a molehill here... who didn't already know that the master plan for the RNR is to incorporate it into the regular service, to create a "regular" and "part time" service? The idea being you can flit between the two if you wish & if it suits the needs of the Service. I would be surprised if any current RNRs hadn't heard about this idea.
If and when it will actually happen is anyone's guess however.
the_badger said:If they were to actually disband the RNR and make everyone 'part time RN' that would be one of the least popular decisions ever within the RNR.
dunkers said:the_badger said:If they were to actually disband the RNR and make everyone 'part time RN' that would be one of the least popular decisions ever within the RNR.
That's the future :smurf: "allegedly"