RNR - OPV

Spark plug, mobilisations can be from a day to a year. There is merit in some (not all) reservists being trained to serve in the OPV, especially those unemployed or self employed where an RN wage is better than a civvie wage. It won't suit all, and will require considerable training, but it IS possible.
 

instinct

Lantern Swinger
I would just like to point out that currently reservists are already serving on the OPV's. at least two are filling seaman billets on FTRS including the rotation down in the falklands and have made a success of the job.

Running OPV's for the RNR would only be useful in a surge capability with the ability to do training on weekends and usual two weeks away but i dont really see why that couldnt be completed on P2000's that already have loads of spare day's. I recently discovered that Sea time on a P2000 doesnt count so we can't make use of them as a training asset at all.
 

instinct

Lantern Swinger
Instinct, watch this space ref P2000 days not counting ........
Well thats good news, they are a horrendously under used asset that would be of grea training value (especially when they are a good helpful and enthusiastic like Hulls HMS Explorer). Lets got some GPMG's hanging off the side for the Sea Res Branch!
 
I note that with the new legislation massively broadening what a reservist can be mobilised for, and making 12 months a permissible norm rather than nine, a suitable reservist could now be mobilised, intensively trained-up on what she's missing over about 60 days, deployed on a vessel for a nine-month deployment, given a month off and dropped back into her day job in the space of that 12 months.

It's a suspiciously good match of reservist mobilisation possibility and new-fangled vessel deployment periods.
 

instinct

Lantern Swinger
That'll come as a surprise to the P2000 community. Especially when they are suffering huge manning issues. Are you going to provide MEOs to get them to sea first?
Underused by the RNR. I understand the undermanned part. I had to join one for a long weekend recently so it could actually go to sea.
 

Sparkplug

Lantern Swinger
Spark plug, mobilisations can be from a day to a year. There is merit in some (not all) reservists being trained to serve in the OPV, especially those unemployed or self employed where an RN wage is better than a civvie wage. It won't suit all, and will require considerable training, but it IS possible.
I was not referring to an OPV - but ships of the Fleet in general. One Navy - remember!
 

instinct

Lantern Swinger
I was not referring to an OPV - but ships of the Fleet in general. One Navy - remember!
We have a long way to go before one navy idea is Reality. However we are getting there. Reservists are doing sea time on escorts and sometimes during hard core times such as BOST etc and doing well. I consider the OPV's as a stepping stone to show that the RNR is actually trustworthy before being allowed on something more expensive.
 
So, the latest 2 deck buzz is that we can't man the batch 2 OPVs, and thus may only receive one of them to replace CLYDE and then sell on the next 2. Oops.
 

Green_and_Blue

Badgeman
My understanding is that the 1SL wants to keep all 4 River Class in addition to the 3 new ships.
Rumour has it that CMR suggested the RNR could crew 3 of the River Class, but that this would have to be a phased transition over a number of years to enable the relevant capability expansion in the RNR to provide the high standards expected of any ship in the fleet.

@alfred_the_great @Sparkplug
It isn't all doom and gloom.
 

Green_and_Blue

Badgeman
Well fingers crossed that someone at the top has thought this through. :rolleyes:
As CMR said when he visited the unit a few days ago. There is no point in setting your self up to fail.
 

cjg375

Lantern Swinger
Well I understand there is an ongoing struggle to man QE, even with the demise of Illustrious, so it makes sense they'll struggle to man 3 more OPVs.
 

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