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RNR Moral

There are several factors contributing to this

1) Inaccurate and/or late pay
2) Being told we must act "professionally" even though they can't get our pay right
3) Training being cancelled at the last minute for pathetic reasons
4) Constant upheaval in branches/training
5) Uncertainty over the relevance or long-term future of the RNR.

But it's not bad as a drinking club. :lol:
 
dunkers said:
There are several factors contributing to this

1) Inaccurate and/or late pay
2) Being told we must act "professionally" even though they can't get our pay right
3) Training being cancelled at the last minute for pathetic reasons
4) Constant upheaval in branches/training
5) Uncertainty over the relevance or long-term future of the RNR.

But it's not bad as a drinking club. :lol:
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then there is the you can only do 30 days training and it would seem any more and you either do not do it, or you give your time for free. For the first part it is November FFS and for the second I don't think so! They want me, they have to pay for me!
 
A couple of our lads went off with the TA for the weekend to give them a hand.

Our lads were shocked to hear a couple of them being told that they would have to limit their training for the rest of the year because some of them had already accumulated over 100 days!!!

AND WE'RE CAPPED AT 35???

There's something wrong guys. If they think they're gonna call me up after not training me for the next six months they've got another thing coming.

How do they expect to keep people in if they cant afford to train them?
 
dunkers said:
There are several factors contributing to this

1) Inaccurate and/or late pay
2) Being told we must act "professionally" even though they can't get our pay right
3) Training being cancelled at the last minute for pathetic reasons
4) Constant upheaval in branches/training
5) Uncertainty over the relevance or long-term future of the RNR.

But it's not bad as a drinking club. :lol:
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At the end of the day If you don't like-leave, no-one is keeping you here.

1 & 2 The JAP pay fiasco is a service wide problem, not the RNR's fault. Latest I've heard is the RN are going to be hit equally as hard, and their pay is considerably more important than ours! The same thing happened 20 years ago when computerised pay was first introduced.
3. A small amount of training is cancelled compared to the actual amount that takes place.
4. Change is inevitable. The RN are currently going through the same thing.
5. The only uncertainty over the future I have heard has been on Rum Ration. If anyone has any firm information apart from 3rd hand rumour and speculation, lets hear it.

Drinking club?-How about having the glass half full for a change.

Have another look here: http://www.rumration.co.uk/cpgn2/Forums/viewtopic/t=2214.html

(edited bekuse I stil kant speel)
 
rosinacarley said:
GCYZ said:
At the end of the day If you don't like-leave, no-one is keeping you here.
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Sorry mate, I think you will find that is what is happening which is why we are in the state we are in.
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In my experience people are not leaving in any greater numbers than they have done in my 20 odd years in the RNR. Yes fewer people are joining, but that problem is not unique to the RNR. I don't feel any of the reason above preclude people from joining, unless they read them here first of course.
 
Mods, any reason why we can't keep this to one thread? There seems to be a proliferation of angst-ridden introspective threads that all have the same theme.
 
GCYZ said:
rosinacarley said:
GCYZ said:
At the end of the day If you don't like-leave, no-one is keeping you here.
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Sorry mate, I think you will find that is what is happening which is why we are in the state we are in.
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In my experience people are not leaving in any greater numbers than they have done in my 20 odd years in the RNR. Yes fewer people are joining, but that problem is not unique to the RNR. I don't feel any of the reason above preclude people from joining, unless they read them here first of course.
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Really? we were briefed that the net loss to the RNR is about 20 per month.
 
I love the reserves and although training getting cancelled is a bit disheartening I still think moral in my branch is high.
 
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Thought that I would chuck this in as it appears to be missing on this thread.

If you can't spell it you can't have it!!!!!!!
 
wkdwren said:
I love the reserves and although training getting cancelled is a bit disheartening I still think moral in my branch is high.
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I enjoy it too, in fact I'm not terribly bothered by the problems I listed above. I was merely answering the original question of why some people are hacked off.
 
rosinacarley said:
GCYZ said:
rosinacarley said:
GCYZ said:
At the end of the day If you don't like-leave, no-one is keeping you here.
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Sorry mate, I think you will find that is what is happening which is why we are in the state we are in.
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In my experience people are not leaving in any greater numbers than they have done in my 20 odd years in the RNR. Yes fewer people are joining, but that problem is not unique to the RNR. I don't feel any of the reason above preclude people from joining, unless they read them here first of course.
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Really? we were briefed that the net loss to the RNR is about 20 per month.
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I'm not saying numbers aren't falling. Numbers are falling because we are not getting them through the door in the first place. The turnaround of people in the RNR has always been massive. Getting people to come to open evenings etc. is not affected by JPA or weekends being cancelled. Fewer people want to join in the first place, so numbers are bound to fall as a result. The new recruiting campaign might help. Addressing the wider problem of public attitude is a harder nut to crack.
 
We have got the same problem as Marks and Spencers' had. If the punters do not like what you are offering when they will not come into the store and boy.
Whilst I admire loyalty and pride, I think Old Salt might consider wiping his rose coloured glasses.
 

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