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  1. Hey RRers

    In my newbie excitement I've started watching the US TV Naval drama JAG.

    It got me wondering whether the Royal Navy has anything similar. If there is a crime or investigation in the RN are there specialist lawyers/investigators who would turn up and sort it out? I know we have RN police but no idea if that includes a RN legal team, or what powers they have. Do we hand things over to the civvies?
  2. We do have the SIB not sure if they're still called that though
  3. sgtpepperband

    sgtpepperband War Hero Moderator Book Reviewer

    RC: Yes, we have the Service Prosecution Authority and the Special Investigations Branch. The powers and jurisdiction "they" have and in what circumstances that jurisdiction is used is far too long and boring to get into right now... PM me if you want to know more. :wink:
  4. Saw a programme on Sky about "the real JAG", where nobody flew F14s for a hobby, walked away with the Marine Colonel with the big chest, or was generally a seagoing legal cowboy. A lot more mundane legal stuff about rules of engagement, investigations and courts martials. Totally different from JAG, but interesting nonetheless.
  5. Anyone remember that fly on the wall series about RN Crushers at NELSON made them look a right shower of thick cnuts
  6. I don't think it was the fault of the TV producers.
  7. 2D-D Yeah you got that right mate
  8. sgtpepperband

    sgtpepperband War Hero Moderator Book Reviewer

    2DD/STM: I agree; the programme was made at the wrong time for the Branch. There was too much change being made then (to the structure and organisation, and the legislation, which included the illegality of homsexuals in the Service then, etc). At the time, the Branch wasn't as high-profile as it is now (although we still have some way to go to match the visibilty of the RMP), but it was certainly an interesting 'peek behind the curtain'. To be fair, the programme stars many friends and colleagues in their youth, so I cannot be impartial. But I can watch it now with interest, as it highlights how much we have changed our attitude: to the job, the people in the Service and the way we conduct ourselves. But from a historical point of view, it is very interesting - in much the same way one would watch "Sailor" alongside "HMS Brilliant" or "Shipmates".

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  9. We do have naval barristers, and a very smart bunch most of them are too. Taken from the logistics branch, sent to London to do the CPE, BVC and pupillage, all at Her Maj's expense.

    I should be so lucky.
  10. Ah load of bollocks really, only guys I ever knew went Regulator were failures and missfits in their own branch and after 35 years service my opinion hasn't changed thick as fcuk bless em thats why I only got caught for my most distastardly deeds sorry if the spellings fcuked
  11. sgtpepperband

    sgtpepperband War Hero Moderator Book Reviewer

    Okaaay, Stan... :shock:

    And every CPO(M) I ever met was quiet and courteous, never shouted at me for my dress, drill and military bearing. But it's a shame you never conveyed your true feelings when you had the chance to, when "Mad Dave" H***** and I used to pop into your office in Drake for a chat now and again! :oops:

    Look, you're outside now, so can I suggest that you get over it? It's kinda sad that it still grips your shit (I would assume you were joking, but I failed to notice any "sarcasm" emoticons) :roll:
  12. Ah Sgt pepper Dave H etc were never the brightest of the bunch and now I am free I can state my opinions you love your job hated by everyone believe me I never ever had a regulalator who I would trust - Regulator nah I would rather sell my arse to a wafoo.
  14. If its the programme I am thinking of, my old boss was on it, he got an SA off the theft charge, he was Command Legal Advisor at FONAC (yes I know showing my age) when I knew him, a bit of a rugby fanatic but not a bad guy
  15. sgtpepperband

    sgtpepperband War Hero Moderator Book Reviewer

    Whatever Stan. Nice to see you left the RN a rounded and rational man. A commendable inspiration to us all... :shock:
  16. That answers one of the questions I had. I was wondering where the Navy would get 'lawyers' from if they weren't doing it as direct entry. I'm surprised it isn't a direct entry branch available to law graduates. If they are small in number though I'd imagine promotion from within Logistics is the most efficient method.
  17. Ah SPB mate lots of Reggies I would go ashore with but never ever ever would I tell them anything about the night before. Once a regulator always a regulator - matelot second trust me I am right. You know its the truth trouble is nothing personal I never met a clever Joss or any regulator for that matter why did you branch change SPB 15 years and a LH already??
  18. sgtpepperband

    sgtpepperband War Hero Moderator Book Reviewer

    Don't post when you're pissed, STM, there's a good boy... :roll:
  19. Hey SPB not on the pop you cnut just making an observation you will always be Service Police first MATELOT second therefore you are different really different your choice - me I would have stayed in branch and kept my own discipline among the troops regulators chose the other route and therefore fcuking hated within the service. No bad vibes intended but to suggest about the vino sums up the branch really no mates but think you are popular bollocks really - you nice guy wrong branch

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