RFA take down Pirates

Discussion in 'Current Affairs' started by Scouse_Castaway, Oct 25, 2010.

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  1. Good effort Royals of the FPGRM.
    Oh and the RFA taxi. :D
  2. Why did they have to "permanently disable" the new outboard engine? I would have paid good money for it if they could have got it onto E-Bay
  3. Seadog

    Seadog War Hero Moderator

    From the MoD link I do like this


    I bet Royal felt very, very smug, and so they should.


    What happened to Mission Command? Maybe the Turks don't approve of allowing local commanders to act on their own initiative in accordance with the higher commander's intent, get in the face of pirates and those suspected of being pirates.

    Hermes R 12, I don't think that your link to some (different ship's) old deployment snaps of a few hugging chums coupled with a gay sound track is relevant to Fort Victoria's action or Current Affairs. It doesn't even makes the RFA look cool or steely.
  4. Reads like a random car boot search in Sheffield..! 8O

    BZ to them and our lass onboard from Barnsley :thumbright:
  5. Seadog - the RN doesn't operate on Mission Command any more. The "political dynamics" and "legal sensitivities" in each case, when combined with Fleet wishing to "ensure Full Command responsibilities" mean that the CO has to go up the chain in every instance......
  6. Seadog

    Seadog War Hero Moderator

    MOD hat on: one deletion of a purile (in context) addition. Wilf, there is something you should know about the Current Affairs forum.

    Poster hat.

    Alfred the Great, I haven't heard that Mission Command has been replaced as

    "....... the fundamental Service organisational philosophy in an age of centralisation enabled by real time communications" *

    but I share your implicit dismay at the overuse of the so-called long screwdriver. I've seen 'Mission Command ' in CO's orders from UKMCC recently. Alive but not very well perhaps or has it really been binned?

    * unreferenced. You may recognise its source.
  7. Dr Jim Storr makes the case we've never done Mission Command in HM Armed Forces, and I'll be honest, as soon as we step outside of the SCXA's and into something a little more "grown-up", I've never seen it either.

    I have however feigned comms difficulties and cracked on anyway, wearing the bollocking afterwards....
  8. Sandy Woodward gave it a good go in '82 when he tried to push the ROE and give the green light for Conqueror to sink the Belgrano earlier than she did without going through the "proper" chain of command.

    The stupid thing is that if he had got away with it, all the subsequent irrelevant nausea about whether or not she was going in the wrong direction at the time she was torpedoed would have been avoided.

    UKMCC Bahrain, from my experience, actually seem to have been pretty switched on wrt the principle of Mission Command (but I have been out of the loop for a while now so no longer "current")

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