Return of Service

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  1. What is the ROS of a Warfare Officer?!
    Seems impossible to find a definitive answer
  2. Don't know, but the addition of one little word may make those who do more inclined to answer.
  3. Please :)

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  4. Ninja_Stoker

    Ninja_Stoker War Hero Moderator

    Since you asked so nicely: 5 years commissioned service from completion of an officer’s initial training (i.e. including professional training) for Warfare, Logs, Engineers & RM.
  5. Thank-you

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  6. Ninja_Stoker

    Ninja_Stoker War Hero Moderator

    No problem.

    As you're probably aware, Officer Cadets join BRNC and undertake 30 weeks’ Initial Naval Training (also referred to as Phase 1 training) covering Militarisation, Marinisation and Initial Fleet Time (which includes up to 9 weeks in an operational warship) before completing their Passing Out Parade. Thereafter, officers undertake Phase 2 specialist training at an appropriate training establishment (and at sea in the case of Warfare Officers undertaking Specialist Fleet Time).
  7. Thanks a million. I'm clued in with all that.
    Could you clear up a few things for me please?
    1. What is the policy for leaving during training? Can you leave anytime right up until you pass IWOF as a warfare officer?
    2. During peacetime what is the role of a Warfare Officer? I am aware part of it is to be responsible for the safe Nav of the ship.
    3. The 5 years return of service. Is 5 years the point in which you can apply to leave? I picked up somewhere that there's a 12 month traditional notice to quit subject to operational requirements.

    Next stage for me is AIB. I am just trying to smooth over these questions I am uncertain on.

    Thank-you for your time Ninja

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  8. The interviewers seem to want you to be able to tell them the criteria for leaving.

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  9. Ninja_Stoker

    Ninja_Stoker War Hero Moderator

    1. All Officers currently join on a 12 year Initial Commission.

    In cases where a career in the Royal Navy ceases to appeal, officers are able to apply for voluntary withdrawal from training at any time up until their Premature Termination of Career Training Point, (i.e. the day before passing out of BRNC). Thereafter, officers are not normally allowed to leave until they have completed their initial training and provided a minimum of 3 years’ effective return of service (ROS), the length of ROS reflecting the cost, attractiveness and importance of the training.

    The notice period is 12 months. Officers, who are within a year of completing a ROS for their initial training (or any subsequent training received) may apply for Early Termination at any time before the end of their commission or compulsory retirement age under extant regulations at that time.

    2. Good question, always puzzled me that, too. :grin: Basically they are the Officer of the Watch on the bridge, but I'm sure some of our resident Warfare Officers will give a better insight.

    3. See above
  10. Legend. Thanks a million

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  11. Hey Bella, my understanding of W/O's during peacetime is exactly that, Nav, OOD dutys, training, as well as being a effective divisional officer. Also I imagine it would depend on your specialisation. Ie air traffic controller would be doing exactly that etc... I would say it depends on where you are posted and the operational reqs of that posting

    My AIB is also coming up, whens yours?
  12. 2. In the 'good old days' we used to be called Seaman Officers. That possibly described our peacetime role a bit more accurately than 'Warfare Officer'. As you say, Officer Of The Watch is a primary function, safely getting the ship from A to B, on time, and doing whatever needs to be done on the way. For example, training serials, launching the helicopter, making sure there are some big waves to roll the ship at meal times. As you progress as a Warfare Officer, you may become the Navigating Officer, or a Principle Warfare Officer. There are other sub-specialisations too, such as Hydrography, Minewarfare, Aviation ... You will also be a Divisional Officer looking after your subordinates, you will have a 'Part Of Ship' that you will supervise the maintenance and cleanliness of, and may have other responsibilities such as being the ship's Classified Books Officer. There are ship's affiliated Sea Cadet Units, twined towns and organisations to be corresponded with, relations with the public to be managed etc, etc. And then you might go to war. There is lots to be done in a warship.
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  13. Yeah.

    Bastards! :grin:
  14. Re: Shipscat
    It won't let me pm you as your storage quota is maxed out.

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