Reserve Training.... Cuts force TA to cease training

The Territorial Army has been told it must temporarily halt training due to severe pressure on government finances.

Drill-hall instruction, weekend exercises and all other TA training are to stop for six months, resulting in savings of about £20m.

TA soldiers serve in Afghanistan, but the Ministry of Defence said operations would not be hit as they train with the regular Army before deployment.

The TA has about 1,200 troops a year in Iraq, Afghanistan and the Balkans.

A Ministry of Defence (MoD) spokesman said: "These are challenging times and like all government departments, we have to live within our means.

"We routinely review our spending to balance priorities, focusing on the highest priorities including on our operations, particularly in Afghanistan."

A six-month halt to training will also mean soldiers will not get paid.

An MoD official said: "Those in the TA get paid for the training that they do. If they don't do any training they won't be paid."

TA troops train on one evening a week as well as on some weekends and during a two-week annual camp.

The base pay is the same as the regular army. New entrants are paid £33.73-a-day as well as money for their travel, meals, and uniform.

Pay rises with rank, with privates receiving £42.07-a-day, corporals getting £65.28 and sergeants on £74.20.

Since Labour came to power the TA has fallen from more than 57,000 to a trained strength of about 19,000.

In April the MoD announced plans for a major shake-up of the TA, with up to 2,400 Royal Signal posts standing to be cut, with soldiers facing redundancy or redeployment.

(Taken from the news.bbc.co.uk website 10/10/09)
 

Purple_twiglet

War Hero
Moderator
Not at the moment - this is an HQ LAND mandated PR09 measure, and I don't think anything equivalent has been raised by NAVY (yet!).

Question is though - if the TA aren't deploying, then should we need training for those units which are non deployable (thinmking 2 NC Bde here)?


May be a delay in replying, am currently AWOL on leave :)
 

wysiwyg

Lantern Swinger
Sopwith_Cameltoe said:
The Territorial Army has been told it must temporarily halt training due to severe pressure on government finances.

Drill-hall instruction, weekend exercises and all other TA training are to stop for six months, resulting in savings of about £20m.

TA soldiers serve in Afghanistan, but the Ministry of Defence said operations would not be hit as they train with the regular Army before deployment.

The TA has about 1,200 troops a year in Iraq, Afghanistan and the Balkans.

A Ministry of Defence (MoD) spokesman said: "These are challenging times and like all government departments, we have to live within our means.

"We routinely review our spending to balance priorities, focusing on the highest priorities including on our operations, particularly in Afghanistan."

A six-month halt to training will also mean soldiers will not get paid.

An MoD official said: "Those in the TA get paid for the training that they do. If they don't do any training they won't be paid."

TA troops train on one evening a week as well as on some weekends and during a two-week annual camp.

The base pay is the same as the regular army. New entrants are paid £33.73-a-day as well as money for their travel, meals, and uniform.

Pay rises with rank, with privates receiving £42.07-a-day, corporals getting £65.28 and sergeants on £74.20.

Since Labour came to power the TA has fallen from more than 57,000 to a trained strength of about 19,000.

In April the MoD announced plans for a major shake-up of the TA, with up to 2,400 Royal Signal posts standing to be cut, with soldiers facing redundancy or redeployment.

(Taken from the news.bbc.co.uk website 10/10/09)

And if you suspend training until April then the 19000 will probably be halved! Take the routine away and people find other interests! Then they will have to make a major spend on recruiting in PR10. Short sighted as usual!!
 

hookyh

Lantern Swinger
FTRS for RNR personnel is already in the process of being canned to save money by the short-sighted imbeciles we have doing the number crunching.

Apparently there are now enough people on the navy's books to do away with FTRS altogether (unless your face fits of course!). Sadly and pathetically this is based solely on numbers, not availability of personnel, so it includes those in the RN who are either injured or medically downgraded, or even AWOL.

A mate of mine is currently working in a careers office slot on FTRS and has been informed his contract is almost certain to be cancelled in the new year despite the fact that Drafty has confirmed he cannot be replaced from current manpower due to there being no-one available, thereby leaving his office short of a body and ensuring everyone else there has to cover the same amount of work. Kind of ironic that he should assist with recruiting people so that the powers that be can put him out of work altogether. He's a married man with kids by the way, so, on his behalf thankyou very much to the Admiralty for putting a commited guy on the dole.

I'm willing to bet that'll be another good and highly experienced reservist handing his ID card in, unlike the scumbags who handed theirs in recently on receipt of their mobilisation papers!!

CHEERS PUSSER! You should be so proud of yourself!!!!

If ever there was proof our lords and masters don't care this is it!!
 

rogerthecabinboy

Lantern Swinger
on the subject of " refuseniks" here is a cunning plan.
1.Get brown envelope, bottle crashes, hand back ID.
2. MOD Plod at door, serve your mobilised period in DQs, then dishonouable discharge, simples tschh.

scum, lowest of the low. I have more respect for some lefty, tree hugging, anti military, :evil: crusties. at least you know where they stand.
 

hookyh

Lantern Swinger
Roger that Roger!

I know it's going off-topic somewhat, but I'd like to add my weight to that opinion. I'd love to speak to the offending low-lives myself and ask what their snivelling reason is for turning their back on Queen and Country when they called!

Many of us have been there and done what we signed on to do even though we have families we're leaving behind temporarily and all that entails both in practical and emotional terms.

I'd agree with the idea of DQ's - Top Man!

Just in case any of those cowards are reading this, I hope they realise
that someone else who was not prepared has now had to be called up at short notice to take their place? Indeed I hear that one of those now about to be mobilised is a single mother who despite some trepidation intends to do her duty in the finest traditions of the RN/RNR. Mucho respecto to that lady!!!

Therefore my last word on the subject - (Unless there were desperate circumstances in your lives preventing you going at this time, in which case my commiserations!), Damn you for bringing shame on our organisation and may you never darken our doors again! Hang your heads for the rest of your lives and remember that when it came to the crunch you let your shipmates down.

Enuff said!!
 

Uncle_Albert

War Hero
Why don't the TA carry on training any way, with out pay.

Presumably it'd be without transport, travel expenses, kit issue or feeding as well as without pay. Can't see many TA bods putting into their pocket to pay for these things for six months.
 

Uncle_Albert

War Hero
Well then, perhaps because the difference between 5 months and 30 days without training and 6 months without training is so negligible as to be pointless?
 
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